Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Arsey » Wed Mar 13, 2019 09:48 am

Found this this morning in my tyre. Good feeling when you know you've avoided a puncture :D

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Imposter » Wed Mar 13, 2019 09:51 am

Looks like a 'regular' tyre cut - doesn't mean it's gone through the casing...

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby velo.2010 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 18:03 pm

Folks. is anybody running tubes and tyres on Mavic UST wheels. Ksyrium Elites seem to be 'hookless' and just wonder about the safety of fitting regular tyres to the rim. Had no such issue on Ultegra 6800 which were tubeless compatible but had a 'hooked' rim.

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Arsey » Thu Mar 14, 2019 07:31 am

Imposter wrote:Looks like a 'regular' tyre cut - doesn't mean it's gone through the casing...

I think the white thing inside is sealant though. Guess I can't really find out without taking the tyre off!
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby zefs » Thu Mar 14, 2019 08:22 am

velo.2010 wrote:Folks. is anybody running tubes and tyres on Mavic UST wheels. Ksyrium Elites seem to be 'hookless' and just wonder about the safety of fitting regular tyres to the rim. Had no such issue on Ultegra 6800 which were tubeless compatible but had a 'hooked' rim.


Ksyrium Elite UST's are hooked: https://tech.mavic.com/tech-mavic/techn ... ronu=25674

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby rieko » Wed Mar 20, 2019 13:20 pm

rieko wrote:
Arsey wrote:
zefs wrote:
rieko wrote:Just purchased a pair of Hutchinson Fusion 5 Galactik 11-storm. Reviews seem to rate them highly, so I'll see how they compare to my stock Giant Gavia's which after 5000 miles have finally given upon me.


It's a racing tire that cuts easily, should be used in good conditions/roads in my opinion.


Agreed, you'll be buying new tyres in about 1000km.


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Update on my tires. They feel night and day compared to my stock Giant Gavia's. Much more grippy in the wet and they just roll nicer. I did get my first puncture with them over the weekend and they sealed up as they should perfectly.

So far so good.
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Postby thecycleclinic » Wed Mar 20, 2019 22:51 pm

What tyres?
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby bendertherobot » Sun Mar 24, 2019 16:58 pm

Look, I could probably go back a few pages.....but......

The Giant has Giant TL tyres. They are, apparently, "ok."

GP5000 seem to be God like, from all available reviews. But they are not cheap.

Schwabe One are cheap(er).

https://www.merlincycles.com/schwalbe-p ... 12358.html

What's the current forum opinion given I'd need to buy fluid for Conti as well
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby thecycleclinic » Sun Mar 24, 2019 19:58 pm

Conti are not god like tyres. They are a really good TT/racing tyre. For pace there nothing to touch them. They wear out too quickly for daily use.

I have the Hutchinson fusion 5 all seasons on the commutor at the moment. They are definitely higher crr than the conti's but I think they have more grip. The conti get praise because they are conti's.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby solarFlash » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:49 am

How to the Fusion 5 all seasons compare with sectors?

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Shimmyhill » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:35 am

I’m new to tubeless tyres due to a new Giant bike with 25c Giant tyres and have been reading up what I need to know.

My previous road bike ran Gatorskins and while I never liked the feel of them I did like the lack of punctures so I’m hoping to get a setup that feels better but is as if not more puncture resistant than gatorskins and hoping that sealant will help with this. My questions really are around what I need to buy to achieve my goal, I’m not a speed demon but like to commute on occasion and do sportives and have my first 100 mile lined up (90 being prev best)

I will of course try the Giants and see how I get on but if I had a shopping list for new tyres, sealant and gubbins needed to inject what would you fine people suggest? (I’m going to buy a Maxalami kit to carry with me from reading this thread.)

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Shimmyhill » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:38 am

I’m new to tubeless tyres due to a new Giant bike with 25c Giant tyres and have been reading up what I need to know.

My previous road bike ran Gatorskins and while I never liked the feel of them I did like the lack of punctures so I’m hoping to get a setup that feels better but is as if not more puncture resistant than gatorskins and hoping that sealant will help with this. My questions really are around what I need to buy to achieve my goal, I’m not a speed demon but like to commute on occasion and do sportives and have my first 100 mile lined up (90 being prev best)

I will of course try the Giants and see how I get on but if I had a shopping list for new tyres, sealant and gubbins needed to inject what would you fine people suggest? (I’m going to buy a Maxalami kit to carry with me from reading this thread.)

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby thecycleclinic » Fri Mar 29, 2019 14:54 pm

almost everyone I know find gatorskins to be puncture prone. it not so much how often a tyre punctures but how easy it is to sort out. with tubeless for it to be easy to sort out if the tyre is retained by the rim if you loose all air. In that case all you need are good sticky tyre plugs. Bobones says they dont work but has never said which plugs he has tried.

The 4 tubeless tyres with decent puncture protection are the IRC formula pro X guard, Hutchinson fusion 5 all season, Goodyear Eagle (the ride quality is poor for tubeless though) and that pirrelli cintura
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Shimmyhill » Sat Mar 30, 2019 09:34 am

thecycleclinic wrote:almost everyone I know find gatorskins to be puncture prone. it not so much how often a tyre punctures but how easy it is to sort out. with tubeless for it to be easy to sort out the tyre has be retained by the rim if you loose all air. In that case all you need are good sticky tyre plugs. Bobones has they dont work but has never said which plugs he has tried.

The 4 tubeless tyres with decent puncture protection are the IRC formula pro X guard, Hutchinson fusion 5 all season, Goodyear Eagle (the ride quality is poor for tubeless though) and that pirrelli cintura


Thanks, I was puncture prone until I swapped to gators but I’m happy to never ride them again!

Does different/better sealant make any difference? Should I go for one brand in particular?

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby SloppySchleckonds » Sun Mar 31, 2019 09:25 am

The most common sealant is Effetto Caffelatex.
Is great until it doesn't seal a small hole. And dries out quicker than you think.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby thecycleclinic » Sun Mar 31, 2019 19:09 pm

I just edited to correct the spelling. Effing predictive text. Who the hell invented it.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Shortfall » Sun Mar 31, 2019 19:49 pm

thecycleclinic wrote:I just edited to correct the spelling. Effing predictive text. Who the hell invented it.


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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Milese » Fri Apr 12, 2019 20:41 pm

My first experience of tubeless road tyres, fitted some Hutchinson fusion 5 all season in 28mm to some Hunt Mason X wheels.

Went on beautifully, pumped up with a track pump, ride really well, great grip and seems plenty fast enough for my training bike.

Only issue is that after a week the front tyre still keeps going down, its not as bad as it was, but if I stick 100psi in, ride a 35 mile commute, then return the next day its probably 50 or 60 psi.

I didnt measure the amount of sealent I put it, so perhaps didnt put enough in.

Shall I give it more time, crack the tyre off and add some more sealent or is this typical?

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby thecycleclinic » Fri Apr 12, 2019 22:31 pm

More likely you have a valve seal issue. Valve not properly seated or. Small year in the tape.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Ryan_W » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:31 am

2019 25c Vittoria Corsa TLRs (Graphene 2.0) fitted without an issue (needed a AirShot to seat them, but up first time).

Very smooth and one of the grippiest tyres I've ever used. So grippy they're fairly noisy and I assume not 'that' fast rolling due to this. Extremely supple and don't ballon to a silly size.

My GP5Ks are much quieter and I would say roll a fair bit faster, but who knows until the tests come out.....
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