cld531c wrote:Im talking about overtaking and pulling in so you have to slam on your brakes (and legs when on fixed) to avoid a collision. Unfortunately not a rarity as there are some out there (I blame Wiggo not Wiggle) who feel as a man they have to overtake a woman even if their legs arent really up to it, hence the maneouvre!
It's men and women. When I ride solo and it is busy hours for riding, I don't pay any attention to gender or type of bike or kit or skinny or fat.....I keep up to my personal day's plan of how I plan to ride my route.
If it looks like I'm going to overtake soon, I just make sure it's at a time on my route that I will pass and stay ahead. I hate leapfrog.
Then again, you'd be surprised how many times you go to pass someone (on a bike or in your car driving with other cars) that as soon as you get beside them there is a magical up-tick in pace or power. It's human nature to avoid being passed. If you're really riding at pace on a solo ride and go for a pass, you're likely not caring or paying attention to gender.
If you're pacelining, the group needs to be at a fair enough level that everyone can stay in line and rest and everyone can take at least a few minutes turn a couple of times up front. Male or female.
I've said to someone before that passed back 5 minutes later, then they blew up, "if we meet again, I'll pull off and stop for a few minute break to let you go ahead".
On the issue with "and legs when on fixed"......I'm sorry but no pity for fixie rides on group rides with freewheel bikes. I've had so many issues on group rides with fixie riders surging on a section their gear choice works well with just to be in the damn way on a climb or a descent.
I'm sorry if a person chose to do a group ride that has unpredictable things happen on a fixie, it's not reasonable to expect everyone else on freewheel bikes to ride differently because you can't control your bike.
You don't know if a car pulls out from a side street in front of the leader, they will be grabbing handfuls of brake. Yeah, that fixie rider in that scenario could easily crash out the rest of the freewheel riders.