Stevo 666 wrote: Rick Chasey wrote: Stevo 666 wrote: Rick Chasey wrote: Stevo 666 wrote: rjsterry wrote: Stevo 666 wrote: Rick Chasey wrote:
Shirley Basso wrote:What happens to the border in a hard brexit scenario.
Hard border innit.
If the EU continue to reject all UK suggestions, this is what they will get...
First we need to make some suggestions. We've very specifically stated that we won't be making any formal suggestions until we are ready.
That is still what will happen if they reject all suggestions.
Backstop was U.K. idea, remember.
We are talking about alternatives to the backstop now - in case you forgot, the deal with the backbackstop was rejected 3 times by parliament.
Yeah so it’s the U.K. rejecting everything. Glad that’s cleared up.
All the suggestions since the WA from the U.K. are nonesense as they require the EU to either fully undermine its entire premise, or don’t solve the problem.
Rock and a hard place really unless one side gives, which looks unlikely at present (unless there is some change on the UK political front) - as there's no real overlap between the EU and UK positions on the Irish issue. Hence my guess of a 50% chance of a no deal.
It seems to me that this is not really a matter of the EU agreeing to suggestions from the UK, if any have actually been made, because the cold, hard reality is that there is no solution to the Irish border situation in the event of any sort of brexit, deal or no deal, that involves the UK moving away from the regulatory structure of the EU. One of the main benefits of being in the EU has been that there are seamless borders due to the regulatory alignment + we don't want that any longer. The only solution is a hard border where goods and people's identities are checked. If there was a solution on the horizon then surely the backstop, either for the whole of the UK or for NI only, would be a very short term problem and therefore tolerable to most. What suggestion from the UK side has the EU rejected that would have solved this situation without creating more issues?