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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Ben6899 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 08:53 am

rjsterry wrote:The various political commentators on Twitter are going nuts for Stewart. Gushing would be a good description. James O'Brien reckons he would "annihilate" Corbyn in a GE, but everyone seems to agree that his party will reject him. I guess they aren't interested in winning.

Edit: now that he's read the Labour motion he's decided he won't vote for it, so he won't need to be sacked.

Also, some interesting reporting that some no-dealers are supporting Johnson because they think he'll make that happen and at the same time he's picking up supporters who think he definitely won't go for no deal. A good trick if you can pull it off, but Mr Corbyn's experience suggests you have to pick a side.


He's too centrist for your average Tory. Which is a shame ( :lol: ) for them because he would indeed pull votes from disillusioned other party supporters.
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby darkhairedlord » Thu Jun 13, 2019 09:49 am

Ben6899 wrote:
rjsterry wrote:The various political commentators on Twitter are going nuts for Stewart. Gushing would be a good description. James O'Brien reckons he would "annihilate" Corbyn in a GE, but everyone seems to agree that his party will reject him. I guess they aren't interested in winning.

Edit: now that he's read the Labour motion he's decided he won't vote for it, so he won't need to be sacked.

Also, some interesting reporting that some no-dealers are supporting Johnson because they think he'll make that happen and at the same time he's picking up supporters who think he definitely won't go for no deal. A good trick if you can pull it off, but Mr Corbyn's experience suggests you have to pick a side.


He's too centrist for your average Tory. Which is a shame ( :lol: ) for them because he would indeed pull votes from disillusioned other party supporters.


If he did get in he would still have same to$$ers sat around the cabinet table.

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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Pinno » Thu Jun 13, 2019 15:11 pm

darkhairedlord wrote:If he did get in he would have the cream of the to$$ers sat around the cabinet table.


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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Stevo 666 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 20:25 pm

Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby rjsterry » Thu Jun 13, 2019 20:44 pm

Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


We're in a post-truth world now, Stevo. Equity can also be viewed as a form of custard.
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Pinno » Thu Jun 13, 2019 20:51 pm

rjsterry wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


We're in a post-truth world now, Stevo. Equity can also be viewed as a form of custard.


In other spheres RJS, Equity can also be giving up vaping.
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Robert88 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 20:59 pm

Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


A very simple example:

An inventor may wish to borrow money to patent and develop an idea. An investor might simply lend the money to be repaid in instalments or prefer to take a stake in the company (equity) in the hope of making more through its profits.

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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Stevo 666 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 21:00 pm

rjsterry wrote:We're in a post-truth world now, Stevo.

Is that a polite way of saying he's talking bollox? :)
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Stevo 666 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 21:08 pm

Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


A very simple example:

An inventor may wish to borrow money to patent and develop an idea. An investor might simply lend the money to be repaid in instalments or prefer to take a stake in the company (equity) in the hope of making more through its profits.

That's nothing to do with equity being a form of debt. Just two different ways of funding, one being equity and one being debt.
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby TheBigBean » Thu Jun 13, 2019 21:19 pm

Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


A very simple example:

An inventor may wish to borrow money to patent and develop an idea. An investor might simply lend the money to be repaid in instalments or prefer to take a stake in the company (equity) in the hope of making more through its profits.


Somone may choose to invest equity instead of lending debt. In the same way, someone may choose to buy apples instead of bananas.

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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby rjsterry » Thu Jun 13, 2019 22:05 pm

Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


A very simple example:

An inventor may wish to borrow money to patent and develop an idea. An investor might simply lend the money to be repaid in instalments or prefer to take a stake in the company (equity) in the hope of making more through its profits.


Those are two ways that someone with money can make a bit more money, but the latter has nothing to do with debt.
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby rjsterry » Thu Jun 13, 2019 22:10 pm

Pinno wrote:
rjsterry wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


We're in a post-truth world now, Stevo. Equity can also be viewed as a form of custard.


In other spheres RJS, Equity can also be giving up vaping.


Took me a moment to get that one :)
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Robert88 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 06:22 am

Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


A very simple example:

An inventor may wish to borrow money to patent and develop an idea. An investor might simply lend the money to be repaid in instalments or prefer to take a stake in the company (equity) in the hope of making more through its profits.

That's nothing to do with equity being a form of debt. Just two different ways of funding, one being equity and one being debt.


Whatever. I understand it and you don't. :lol:

(In fact it's more likely that the concept of equity being debt does rather shake the foundations of Tory arguments against government spending)

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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby KingstonGraham » Fri Jun 14, 2019 09:27 am

Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


A very simple example:

An inventor may wish to borrow money to patent and develop an idea. An investor might simply lend the money to be repaid in instalments or prefer to take a stake in the company (equity) in the hope of making more through its profits.

That's nothing to do with equity being a form of debt. Just two different ways of funding, one being equity and one being debt.


Whatever. I understand it and you don't. :lol:

(In fact it's more likely that the concept of equity being debt does rather shake the foundations of Tory arguments against government spending)


It could be a dunning-kruger.
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Stevo 666 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 09:37 am

Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


A very simple example:

An inventor may wish to borrow money to patent and develop an idea. An investor might simply lend the money to be repaid in instalments or prefer to take a stake in the company (equity) in the hope of making more through its profits.

That's nothing to do with equity being a form of debt. Just two different ways of funding, one being equity and one being debt.


Whatever. I understand it and you don't. :lol:

(In fact it's more likely that the concept of equity being debt does rather shake the foundations of Tory arguments against government spending)

You're in a minority of one on this, based on the other comments above. I guess you thought you could bluff it but it didn't work :wink:
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Rick Chasey » Fri Jun 14, 2019 09:41 am

Absolute nonsense, unless the entire investment industry has it wrong and Robert has it right.

The holdings Woodford has are publicly available.

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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby TheBigBean » Fri Jun 14, 2019 09:59 am

Brings a whole new meaning to a debt to equity ratio.

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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Rolf F » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:17 am

Reminds me of how my organisation decided that Ebay would be blocked from the work network because "it is gambling".......
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Re: BREXIT - Ich Bin Auslander

Postby Cruff » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:31 am

Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Stevo 666 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:Sure, but you're talking about debt but Woodford is an equity investor and the fund in question is an equity fund.


Equity can be viewed as a form of debt.

Please explain...I've ever never come across this view before in my career.


A very simple example:

An inventor may wish to borrow money to patent and develop an idea. An investor might simply lend the money to be repaid in instalments or prefer to take a stake in the company (equity) in the hope of making more through its profits.

That's nothing to do with equity being a form of debt. Just two different ways of funding, one being equity and one being debt.


Whatever. I understand it and you don't. :lol:

(In fact it's more likely that the concept of equity being debt does rather shake the foundations of Tory arguments against government spending)

Christ, I hope you're not working anywhere that you're looking after any of my money! :shock:
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