Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby First Aspect » Sat Aug 10, 2019 13:41 pm

ugo.santalucia wrote:
PhilipPirrip wrote:
Gary sparrow wrote:
wongataa wrote:I would like a titanium bike because I think titanium looks great unpainted and it doesn't rust.


It certainly does look great unpainted but that cliche they never rust ! Not one of my bikes of any material ever rusted !

You could equally anecdotally claim that from where you're standing the earth is flat, but the earth isn't flat and the chemical reaction of metals with other elements is known.


But that's why steel frames are treated and painted. Rust is only a problem when the paint chips off or somehow moisture makes its way inside the tubes.

In the vast majority of cases, rust sets in well after the owner has lost any interest in said frame and often comes as a relief, as it offers an excuse to buy a new one
Yes, like when the mascara and eye shadow is washed off, in the morning.

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby amrushton » Sat Aug 10, 2019 21:00 pm

If I had the money I wouldn't hesitate to get a Seven,a Moots or a Curve. Enigmas top end bikes are still made in the UK but for me those US produced Ti bikes just have it esp the Seven SLX. The devil is in the details just as it is with Carbon

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby Def Defyr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 13:21 pm

My wife's Dura-Ace Ti Merlin is a "forever" bike. I bought it for her as a 30th birthday present a while ago (ahem), and pre-children, but it still makes both of us smile. It's light, fast, and comfortable. I would love to have an extra 10k to build up a top shelf Super Record Ti frame but sadly that's unlikely to happen.

That said, ride quality is affected much more by touch points (seat/post/stem/bars) and wheels/tires, I think, and you can tune carbon and alu, as well as steel. Ti to me is a luxe material, with all that implies.

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby davidof » Mon Aug 19, 2019 08:50 am

Shortfall wrote:From your second link:

At the moment you can’t buy a bike made from Super Magnesium but when or if bike brands utilise it the company is confident the price will be comparable with aluminium but cheaper than carbon fibre. But the real test will be how the new alloy rides, and for that, we’ll have to wait a while.



I'm holding out for a Gorilla glass frame, that will be cool.

however realistically I'd probably go for stainless steel today rather than Ti.

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby Step83 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:05 am

davidof wrote:
Shortfall wrote:From your second link:

At the moment you can’t buy a bike made from Super Magnesium but when or if bike brands utilise it the company is confident the price will be comparable with aluminium but cheaper than carbon fibre. But the real test will be how the new alloy rides, and for that, we’ll have to wait a while.



I'm holding out for a Gorilla glass frame, that will be cool.

however realistically I'd probably go for stainless steel today rather than Ti.


Cinelli XCR? It keeps calling me, my wallet cry's, a lot...

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby Veronese68 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 13:28 pm

Step83 wrote:
davidof wrote:however realistically I'd probably go for stainless steel today rather than Ti.

Cinelli XCR? It keeps calling me, my wallet cry's, a lot...

I think SG's shiny bike is an XCR, possibly in my size too. It's a lovely thing of loveliness.

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby wastelander » Mon Aug 19, 2019 21:40 pm

Sadly my 2005 incarnation of the Somec Ti frame has been superseded by a 'full' Ti version (mine is the Titano which has a Columbus Muscle 12k carbon fibre seat/chain stay section epoxy bonded into the seat tube/bottom bracket shell) but I'd replace it with the current rim brake iteration of their Magnus frameset if anything were to happen to my frame.

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby First Aspect » Tue Aug 20, 2019 06:46 am

The carbon stays are completely unnecessary... but damn its a nice looking frame. Puts me in mind of one of those Sevens with the equally pointless carbon seat tube, from around 2000.

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby davidof » Tue Aug 20, 2019 09:13 am

First Aspect wrote:The carbon stays are completely unnecessary...


nonsense, they hold the rear wheel in place !
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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby Matthewfalle » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:03 am

looks the the first gen Boardman Pro (which is in itself, a brilliant bike) but without the funky tube shapes or full Dura Ace and Ritchey WCS for £600......

#retrochainstays
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De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D

smithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby PhilipPirrip » Fri Sep 06, 2019 14:25 pm

Shortfall wrote:From your second link:

At the moment you can’t buy a bike made from Super Magnesium but when or if bike brands utilise it the company is confident the price will be comparable with aluminium but cheaper than carbon fibre. But the real test will be how the new alloy rides, and for that, we’ll have to wait a while.


Crunching the numbers on Super Magnesium
With any material that's supposed to be the Next Big Thing for bike applications, the devil is always in the detail. Allite's initial announcement of Super Magnesium is light on detail — and that's being kind.. It would be great if they could bring it to the mass market though.

An update. Super Magnesium bikes exist and to be available in Europe soon;

https://road.cc/content/tech-news/26631 ... aast-bikes

https://www.vaastbikes.com/

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby Gary sparrow » Fri Sep 06, 2019 21:17 pm

One thing about titanium it gets finger prints and marks easy enough after a wash - I’ve a van Nicholas and although it’s beautifully detailed and rides well , they put silly cheap decals that wear off ridiculously easy.

Planet X spitfire looks tasty and cheap enough at the mo by the way

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby boblo » Sat Sep 07, 2019 08:21 am

Gary sparrow wrote:One thing about titanium it gets finger prints and marks easy enough after a wash - I’ve a van Nicholas and although it’s beautifully detailed and rides well , they put silly cheap decals that wear off ridiculously easy.

Planet X spitfire looks tasty and cheap enough at the mo by the way


A wipe down with a bit of WD40 on a rag has it looking like new again.

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby Shortfall » Sat Sep 07, 2019 09:16 am

Gary sparrow wrote:One thing about titanium it gets finger prints and marks easy enough after a wash - I’ve a van Nicholas and although it’s beautifully detailed and rides well , they put silly cheap decals that wear off ridiculously easy.

Planet X spitfire looks tasty and cheap enough at the mo by the way


Think that's certainly true of the ones with a polished finish. Mine has a plain "brushed" finish (if that's the right description) and doesn't seem to suffer from finger marks much. A wipe down with a baby wipe once in a while seems to keep mine looking like new with the occasional wd40 on a clean rag once a year or so.

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby Gary sparrow » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:26 am

Good tip, Isn’t it amazing what wd40 can do . Is there literally anything it can’t do !
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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby Gary sparrow » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:27 am

Oh it works too just tried it .

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Re: Who buys a Ti Bike these days?

Postby wongataa » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:04 am

Gary sparrow wrote:Good tip, Isn’t it amazing what wd40 can do . Is there literally anything it can’t do !

WD40 can't make a roast dinner!


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