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Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 18:00 pm
by Vince133
Hi

I am looking to purchase some new shorts. I am doing a few more miles and I am in the market to replace my current pair ( DHB aeron waist shorts). I have tended to use waist shorts rather than bib but would consider bib if the replies indicated I would be better in them from a comfort view. Any advice and recommendations would be appreciated.Thanks.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 18:17 pm
by whyamihere
Bibs are far more comfortable in my experience. The longer the ride, the more you're likely to start getting irritation or chafing from the waist band.

What's the budget for new shorts?

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 18:25 pm
by Vince133
Quite flexible on budget although value is a factor. Doing regular 50 to 60 miles. Did 100 last week and I think my pad is a bit worn on my current pair. Will be doing 200 next month in a day so looking to be comfortable.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 07:47 am
by OnTheRopes
Bibs definitely
Buy the best you can afford
Good leg grips to stop them riding up, though these work better with shaved legs or over leg warmers.
Obviously the quality of the pad is important for long rides but we are all different so I would suggest you try them out plenty before the big ride.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:35 am
by cougie
Just get the DHB Aeron bibs. Love mine.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 13:15 pm
by w00dster
I've got the DHB Aeron Bibs, pleasantly surprised at how comfortable they are. I got mine in a sale, can't remember the price but wasn't expecting much but I'm impressed.
I've also got the Rapha Pro Team, not worth the £100 price difference, but still very good. Also got the Rapha Core, probably my favourite ones for long rides in the saddle.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 21:14 pm
by FatTed
Rapha classic bibs are popular and free return if you don't like them , I think you get a month to test them.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 21:25 pm
by Daniel B
VFM, and top quality pads, I would suggest:

LA Passione (especially in the sale, though returns can be expensive, unless you pay through paypal and can claim back return postage if you activate the feature beforehand)
Galibier
Rapha pro team or lightweight
Castelli - The Progetto X2 pad is superb imho

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 22:00 pm
by w00dster
Daniel B - is there any difference in pad with Rapha Pro Team and Core?
I can’t tell the difference myself. The pro team look nicer, I’ve two pairs, the lightweight with the white band on the leg and standard pro team with the lettering.
I guess for £100 difference there must be more than just aesthetic differences?

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 22:10 pm
by YiannisM
I use mainly 2 bib shorts, sportful super total comfort that i bought in discount for 140 euros, and endura FS 260pro, that ive bought for 80 euros. The 1st one is by far the best shorts that i ever owned, but not 60 euros better than the Endura. Before that i was using Castelli, very nice pad, but not durable at all.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 22:43 pm
by Daniel B
w00dster wrote:Daniel B - is there any difference in pad with Rapha Pro Team and Core?
I can’t tell the difference myself. The pro team look nicer, I’ve two pairs, the lightweight with the white band on the leg and standard pro team with the lettering.
I guess for £100 difference there must be more than just aesthetic differences?


Good question, I have a pair of each, and tend to use the core ones for shorter rides, although the LP's tend to take precedence as they are so comfy - to me the PT II pad seems a bit more dense\firm than the core ones, but not actually read the spiel or examined them together for a direct visual\feel comparison.

IIRC my core's ended up costing me about £60, as they had a bundle deal on a while back, and I flogged the jersey for decent money, as a bnwt sale, as I had already read about the pockets being really high up, plus I am rather fussy about my jerseys :D

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 08:23 am
by Thigh_burn
I'm a big fan of Endura's. They seem to last well and are the most comfortable for my 'wide' sit bone.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 08:27 am
by ugo.santalucia
Vince133 wrote:Will be doing 200 next month in a day so looking to be comfortable.


There is no comfort on a 200 miler. You can make thing less bad, but forget about the idea that you could do it with no pain or discomfort.

The Aeron Lab pad (the pricier range) is pretty good... I have done 200 miles on those in bearable discomfort

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 09:38 am
by ttf
I used to be a die-hard Rapha Pro Team advocate but recently stumped up the cash for some of the CHPT3 Origin 1.11 shorts (these puppies: https://chpt3.com/collections/shorts-le ... 9292031044)... Truly different ball game (no pun intended) in terms of long-distance comfort. They use Castelli's Progetto 2 chamois pad and it's like night and day from the Rapha stuff, which is saying something as I thought the same when first wearing Rapha. They're expensive, yes, but quality is incredible and I think they do a 30-day money back guarantee if you're not mad about them.

If the budget doesn't stretch, worth checking out their new Girona bibs (about £100) - I bought some recently for my commutes and shorter rides and comfort is almost on par with the Origin stuff but for much less £££.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 20:19 pm
by Vince133
Thanks for your replies. I appreciate 200 will leave a degree of discomfort. Did it a couple of years ago using DHB Aeron waist shorts. Need to replace so looking at options and maybe an upgrade. Will review all of the recommendations thanks again.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 12:45 pm
by RoyPSB
ttf wrote:I used to be a die-hard Rapha Pro Team advocate but recently stumped up the cash for some of the CHPT3 Origin 1.11 shorts (these puppies: https://chpt3.com/collections/shorts-le ... 9292031044)... Truly different ball game (no pun intended) in terms of long-distance comfort. They use Castelli's Progetto 2 chamois pad and it's like night and day from the Rapha stuff, which is saying something as I thought the same when first wearing Rapha. They're expensive, yes, but quality is incredible and I think they do a 30-day money back guarantee if you're not mad about them.

If the budget doesn't stretch, worth checking out their new Girona bibs (about £100) - I bought some recently for my commutes and shorter rides and comfort is almost on par with the Origin stuff but for much less £££.


Just bought a pair of the 1.11 bibs. Just tried them on and they do feel like top quality. A little long in the leg for me, but I am short. Not a problem though and looking forward to trying them out. Got them for £154 in sale which is still by some distance the most I’ve paid for bibs. High hopes and expectations.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 18:19 pm
by TurboTommy
Bibs are like saddles to a large degree. It’s great getting recommendations. It’ll give you an idea of build quality, the pad, and feel etc. But you’ll really need to trial and error a few pairs to find what’s right for you as it’s so subjective.

For what it’s worth I much preferred the original pro team bibs to the latest design. I’ve recently been using a pair of PNS bibs that I really like and will buy more of in the future. (even if the names a little unfortunate...) The pad is very plush. Never got on with Castelli pad. Assos also seem a good fit for me.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 21:51 pm
by Daniel B
RoyPSB wrote:
ttf wrote:I used to be a die-hard Rapha Pro Team advocate but recently stumped up the cash for some of the CHPT3 Origin 1.11 shorts (these puppies: https://chpt3.com/collections/shorts-le ... 9292031044)... Truly different ball game (no pun intended) in terms of long-distance comfort. They use Castelli's Progetto 2 chamois pad and it's like night and day from the Rapha stuff, which is saying something as I thought the same when first wearing Rapha. They're expensive, yes, but quality is incredible and I think they do a 30-day money back guarantee if you're not mad about them.

If the budget doesn't stretch, worth checking out their new Girona bibs (about £100) - I bought some recently for my commutes and shorter rides and comfort is almost on par with the Origin stuff but for much less £££.


Just bought a pair of the 1.11 bibs. Just tried them on and they do feel like top quality. A little long in the leg for me, but I am short. Not a problem though and looking forward to trying them out. Got them for £154 in sale which is still by some distance the most I’ve paid for bibs. High hopes and expectations.


Not considered this brand at all before - just had a look on their site (As I am a big fan of the X2 pad) and found the 1.16 Defiant shorts reduced from £120 to £60, so decided to try a pair.
I think about £130 would be the absolute top whack I would pay for a pair of shorts, so at £60 I was very happy :-)
Will report back.

If they are deemed good enough, they may unseat my pro team II shorts for ride london.

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 07:23 am
by kingrollo
Sure good shorts help.

But I would have thought comfort comes from the saddle

Re: Shorts for longer rides

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 08:32 am
by ChippyK
RoyPSB wrote:
ttf wrote:I used to be a die-hard Rapha Pro Team advocate but recently stumped up the cash for some of the CHPT3 Origin 1.11 shorts (these puppies: https://chpt3.com/collections/shorts-le ... 9292031044)... Truly different ball game (no pun intended) in terms of long-distance comfort. They use Castelli's Progetto 2 chamois pad and it's like night and day from the Rapha stuff, which is saying something as I thought the same when first wearing Rapha. They're expensive, yes, but quality is incredible and I think they do a 30-day money back guarantee if you're not mad about them.

If the budget doesn't stretch, worth checking out their new Girona bibs (about £100) - I bought some recently for my commutes and shorter rides and comfort is almost on par with the Origin stuff but for much less £££.


Just bought a pair of the 1.11 bibs. Just tried them on and they do feel like top quality. A little long in the leg for me, but I am short. Not a problem though and looking forward to trying them out. Got them for £154 in sale which is still by some distance the most I’ve paid for bibs. High hopes and expectations.


I’ve a cupboard rammed with Rapha, all bought in the sale or archive store so I don’t mind spending money, but £154 for bibs AND in the sale? Wow, are they that good?