Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

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Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby fozworth » Thu Sep 27, 2018 06:33 am

I’m pretty new to road cycling after years of mtbing and have had to buy a complete new kit setup . I’ve been looking at getting a decent (not silly expensive ) wind/waterproof breathable jacket . I’ve looked at so many reviews that tbh I’m pretty confused on what to go for . If I’m honest I’m not going to be riding out on a mega wet day ,although living in the UK that’s not to say you won’t get caught ina few downpours . So am I best off getting a shake dry ightweight packable jacket or a more technical complete jacket that I just wear a add layer underneath ? I know these fitted to be as waterproof but as previously said it’s more for showers and the odd downpour should I get caught .
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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby MrB123 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 06:59 am

Get something like a Castelli Alpha ROS jersey. Good for 95% of UK rides during the colder months. You'll get so much more use out of it then a full waterproof.

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby mrfpb » Thu Sep 27, 2018 07:15 am

On a budget, I highly recommend the dhb Aeron range


The Roubaix jersey is my most used cold weather item. I combine it with one of their gilets for a little extra wind protection on hilly rides.


I use their Full Protection Softshell for the really cold and wet winter days

Look at bender review thread for comparisons between the Aeron range and the more pricey Rapha, Castelli and other brands


viewtopic.php?f=40013&t=13039887

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby fozworth » Thu Sep 27, 2018 07:24 am

Cheers ,for the reply . My budget is about £120 but I hope to get a sale item that would have been nearer £200

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby Bottom briquettes » Thu Sep 27, 2018 07:30 am

Altura night vision jackets are pretty good, in my experience. If you want to spend a lot more, Assos soft shells are nice.

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby mrfpb » Thu Sep 27, 2018 07:37 am

fozworth wrote:Cheers ,for the reply . My budget is about £120 but I hope to get a sale item that would have been nearer £200
Then keep an eye on this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=40012&t=12670609

But I have to warn you, you may end up spending money on lots of stuff you didn't realise you wanted/needed.

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby keef66 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 08:57 am

mrfpb wrote:
fozworth wrote:Cheers ,for the reply . My budget is about £120 but I hope to get a sale item that would have been nearer £200
Then keep an eye on this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=40012&t=12670609

But I have to warn you, you may end up spending money on lots of stuff you didn't realise you wanted/needed.


^True dat. Both cost and saved me a small fortune. You have to be disciplined and only buy the things you actually need, or that you've considered but discounted because of the cost.

My Castelli Alpha ROS jacket was a good example; I really wanted one but couldn't justify spending £230 on a jacket, but when Westbrooks were selling off the outgoing winter kit in the spring I could suddenly get one for half price. Boom.

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby londoncommuter » Thu Sep 27, 2018 09:05 am

If you're small this is a bargain (apologies for the cheeky bump):

viewtopic.php?f=40091&t=13095922

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby fozworth » Thu Sep 27, 2018 09:14 am

MrB123 wrote:Get something like a Castelli Alpha ROS jersey. Good for 95% of UK rides during the colder months. You'll get so much more use out of it then a full waterproof.

Hi ,do you mean the jersey or the jacket as Castelli do a Alpha jacket and jersey ?

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby fozworth » Thu Sep 27, 2018 09:31 am

Sadly I’m a 39” chest and although medium in altura I suspect I’m a large in Castelli

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby Matt_N » Thu Sep 27, 2018 09:34 am

This would probably serve you well through the worst of the seasons.

Scale up or down your base layer to increase / decrease warmth.

https://www.tweekscycles.com/uk/castell ... t-1471292/
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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby NitrousOxide » Thu Sep 27, 2018 09:50 am

I got an Altura peloton Transformer last year in sales for ~£35 from Merlin IIRC, works well in the approx 0-13C range depending on the ride power in the dry, not sure if it has been rained on at all yet (not that it is sld as a waterproof).

I', planning to go and have a look at https://www.aldi.co.uk/men%27s-converti ... 1242288501 , but I don't expect it to be a race-fit design like the Altura.
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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby keef66 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 09:56 am

fozworth wrote:
MrB123 wrote:Get something like a Castelli Alpha ROS jersey. Good for 95% of UK rides during the colder months. You'll get so much more use out of it then a full waterproof.

Hi ,do you mean the jersey or the jacket as Castelli do a Alpha jacket and jersey ?


If you had to choose just one I'd say the jersey is the more usable for UK temps / weather. Jacket will be too warm a lot of the time.

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby bobones » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:03 am

I find the Alpha jersey a bit cold in the arms and use the Alpha jacket much more during winter. When it's not quite so cold, I'll use a Castelli Transition, Transparente, Perfetto or Alpha jersey and carry an Idro packable waterproof in case of downpours. A packable waterproof jacket with a windproof softshell is a much more flexible option than a full waterproof hardshell that you'd wear at the start of a ride IMO. The Idro is probably the best bit of kit I have bought in the last couple of years.

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby fozworth » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:20 am

Matt_N wrote:This would probably serve you well through the worst of the seasons.

Scale up or down your base layer to increase / decrease warmth.

https://www.tweekscycles.com/uk/castell ... t-1471292/

Hi mate I saw those last night however I wasn’t sure if it was going to be waterproof enough in event of getting caught in rain ? They say it’s the alpha jacket which is a little misleading as it’s the alpha jersey .
What do you think ?

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby MrB123 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:10 am

keef66 wrote:
fozworth wrote:
MrB123 wrote:Get something like a Castelli Alpha ROS jersey. Good for 95% of UK rides during the colder months. You'll get so much more use out of it then a full waterproof.

Hi ,do you mean the jersey or the jacket as Castelli do a Alpha jacket and jersey ?


If you had to choose just one I'd say the jersey is the more usable for UK temps / weather. Jacket will be too warm a lot of the time.


Yeah, go for the jersey. Far more versatile across a range of temperatures. So long as you've got a reasonable range of base layers you'll be covered for all but the coldest days. They call it a jersey but it's really a light softshell jacket with a internal insulating layer on the front.


I've also just got one of these which seems a decent bargain and should work for lower temperatures than the Alpha jersey can handle...
https://lusso.bike/product/aqua-extreme-repel-jacket/

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby MrB123 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:16 am

I should add that I'm also 39" chest and the large Alpha is spot on.

The Alphas will keep off a reasonable shower and even if they start to get wet you should stay pretty warm with a decent merino baselayer.

I can't say that I will usually venture out if it's really nasty, and in the case of being caught in a proper cloudburst when I'm out I'll usually seek shelter from the nearest convenient tree/bus shelter/café.

If you expect to be riding in sustained rain then obviously you need to be looking at hardshells.

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby bobones » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:52 am

MrB123 wrote:If you expect to be riding in sustained rain then obviously you need to be looking at hardshells.
The days when you'd start a ride with a hard shell are much fewer than you'd think, so you'll get much more use and value from a packable that can double as a hardshell IMO. I had this debate with myself last year and opted for the Idro, which has been a revelation. I'd previously used Endura FS260 race capes, and had a Mavic H2O hardshell, but the shake-dry fabric is in a different league to these. I carry it in case of mid-ride downpour or just wear it over a softshell if it's particularly nasty at the start of a ride.

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby fozworth » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:05 pm

MrB123 wrote:I should add that I'm also 39" chest and the large Alpha is spot on.

The Alphas will keep off a reasonable shower and even if they start to get wet you should stay pretty warm with a decent merino baselayer.

I can't say that I will usually venture out if it's really nasty, and in the case of being caught in a proper cloudburst when I'm out I'll usually seek shelter from the nearest convenient tree/bus shelter/café.

If you expect to be riding in sustained rain then obviously you need to be looking at hardshells.

Cheers ,I think that the Alpha looks a good option and like you I won’t be riding in very wet conditions ,I did think I could invest in one of those shake dry lightweight packable waterproof shells so if in a cloud burst I could stick that on top which should do the trick and they seem to be only around £40 even for a Castelli or similar brand .
Could I fit a regular short sleeve jersey under the alpha or are the very fitted ?

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Re: Advice on autum / winter / spring road bike jacket

Postby keef66 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:09 pm

fozworth wrote:
Matt_N wrote:This would probably serve you well through the worst of the seasons.

Scale up or down your base layer to increase / decrease warmth.

https://www.tweekscycles.com/uk/castell ... t-1471292/

Hi mate I saw those last night however I wasn’t sure if it was going to be waterproof enough in event of getting caught in rain ? They say it’s the alpha jacket which is a little misleading as it’s the alpha jersey .
What do you think ?


Correct. Light Jacket = jersey. Castelli themselves are responsible for the ever changing name confusion. No breast pocket is the obvious visual difference.

It will keep you dry enough in light rain, and damp but warm in heavier rain. In either case it will be more comfortable than a full-on waterproof


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