Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby thecycleclinic » Sat Dec 29, 2018 19:07 pm

I found a rim that the maxsis padrone fits to properly, the pacenti sl23. You can still mount by hand but it goes up with compressed Air easily. The rim could not retain the tyre though so I have to carry a tube again. I had to fit this tyre again as I split an IRC Roadlite on a cycle path along the A14 yesterday. I plug got it hold 20 psi so it was rideable with care. Wife picked me up though saving me the struggle.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Sun Dec 30, 2018 17:14 pm

Your life is very adventurous, Malcolm...

I did 600 km on a pair of battered Durano in the last 10 days... nothing to report :-)

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Postby thecycleclinic » Mon Dec 31, 2018 16:34 pm

Bloody cycle paths are lethal that the problem. also cycle paths next to a busy A road are covered in really sharp stuff. no such a clever route.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Kingstonian » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:14 pm

First problem with tubeless this morning after probably 7000 kms, the IRC X-Guard gave out on me on my commute. There was a thin slit on the shoulder of the tyre which sealant just wouldn't fix and I tried and failed to get a worm to deal with it. Ended up limping to Evans by London Bridge, where I popped an inner tube into the tyre which will get me home.

It is a bit of a lesson, as I really should have replaced the tyre by now so it was a problem waiting to happen.

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Postby SloppySchleckonds » Wed Jan 02, 2019 22:29 pm

Kingstonian wrote:First problem with tubeless this morning after probably 7000 kms, the IRC X-Guard gave out on me on my commute. There was a thin slit on the shoulder of the tyre which sealant just wouldn't fix and I tried and failed to get a worm to deal with it. Ended up limping to Evans by London Bridge, where I popped an inner tube into the tyre which will get me home.

It is a bit of a lesson, as I really should have replaced the tyre by now so it was a problem waiting to happen.


I got similar mileage out of a Maxxis Padrone which died the same way. Must be a tubeless thing.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Canny lad » Fri Jan 04, 2019 18:20 pm

Just dipped into this and it makes for interesting reading.

I'm 2.5k miles into road tubeless with mixed results. Had a new bike built and got a set of Fulcrum Quattro Carbon DB's, initially set up with Schwalbe S One 30mm running tubeless. The front tyre is still going strong, never loses much pressure and looks hardly worn.

The rear tyre punctured in Majorca last year but I didn't realise until boxing the bike up at the end of the trip. Eventually had to plug it as it was loosing too much air, this didn't work so new tyre was required.

Fitted a 28mm Hutchinson storm11 All Season (couldn't get a new S One) . First impressions were good though it did lose more air between rides than the Schwalbe. It did get a sidewall puncture, fixed that with a patch but after a while it then started deflating whilst out riding. After much faffing and bottles of sealant it has a tube in it now. The Hutchinson tyre is very loose on the rim, dead easy to get off/on.

I want a 28mm tyre for the front for the summer so am toying with a Conti GP5000TL. Hopefully it will set up tubeless but if not it too will get a tube. Seems that tubeless setup is very tyre/rim dependent.

Not the lightest setup but unlikely to affect me too much and if the tyre blows at least it stays on the rim.

Half tempted to re try after reading Malcolm's comments but I don't have a great deal of faith in the Hutchinson tyre, which is a shame.

My CDF has tubeless Hutchinson Overide 35mm on DT Swiss rims and they work brilliantly, no issues whatever so far.

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Ajkerr73 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 20:24 pm

Any sub £100 GP5000's in 28mm spotted yet?

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby SloppySchleckonds » Sun Jan 13, 2019 19:04 pm

Ajkerr73 wrote:Any sub £100 GP5000's in 28mm spotted yet?


£46 at Bike-Discount, get Wiggle to price match when in stock
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby thecycleclinic » Sun Jan 13, 2019 20:07 pm

Cycling weekly are doing a tubeless guide. We have had a consult. Its mostly in fitting though.

As for plugs I had a good puncture in the gp5000tl recently. Initially the plug tried pushing out at 50psi. So I left it overnight and the sealant seemed to have glued it in place and it now hold 80 psi. I had to use the the 3.5mm Maxalami plugs

One thing I have noticed about the conti tyre the wet grip is not that great. Its not dangerous but I find my self being quite cautious in the bends. The wet grip is adaquate really. That does not bother me too much. They are a summer dry day TT tyre or race tyre as they are very quick.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby SloppySchleckonds » Tue Jan 15, 2019 09:31 am

Thanks Malcolm, rather disconcerting the wet grip statement
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby thecycleclinic » Tue Jan 15, 2019 15:08 pm

Don't worry about the wet grip too much. I am comparing to the best tyres out there's. against most tyres the conti's are pretty good. I am in no hurry to remove them.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Vino'sGhost » Tue Jan 15, 2019 15:14 pm

i still think theyre too much hassle. Plugs dont do the business when theres a hole so whats the point. 20 or 50psi is very low for a road tyre and whilst you might be able to nurse it home after messing about at the road side, id rather know i can patch and replace tube and move as if nothing had happened.

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby SloppySchleckonds » Wed Jan 16, 2019 18:04 pm

Vino'sGhost wrote:i still think theyre too much hassle. Plugs dont do the business when theres a hole so whats the point. 20 or 50psi is very low for a road tyre and whilst you might be able to nurse it home after messing about at the road side, id rather know i can patch and replace tube and move as if nothing had happened.


I've never had a plug that hasn't worked, and plenty that have self sealed.
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Postby thecycleclinic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 18:11 pm

The hole has to be huge for the plug not to work. Ridden over 100 miles on 30 psi and I rode fast. There was no plug in that tyre I forgot them and the pump so I was left at the pressure it sealed at.
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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Ajkerr73 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:14 am

thecycleclinic wrote:The hole has to be huge for the plug not to work. Ridden over 100 miles on 30 psi and I rode fast. There was no plug in that tyre I forgot them and the pump so I was left at the pressure it sealed at.


Have you managed to get any 50000 TL's in 28mm yet Malcolm?

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Kingstonian » Mon Jan 21, 2019 21:33 pm

Finding it impossible to get a seal with my new tubeless tyres. IRC x guards, followed all the instructions etc, the tyre just won’t seat itself using a track pump. I don’t have compressed air, and quite frankly everything I have read says I shouldn’t need it, but I’m now at a loss as to what to do.

Probably am going to have to swap the cassette onto another wheel just so I can do the commute tomorrow.

I do like tubeless, getting through 7000kms with no hassle on a set of tyres is decent especially when they have been ploughing into London every day with all the broken glass etc that entails, but the PITA that comes with changing the tyre is driving me mad.

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby zakos » Tue Jan 22, 2019 06:48 am

I've been using these IRC x-guards for about 800 miles now, I discovered this after a puncture last night. I'm guessing it's no longer safe to ride, I'm looking for any recommendations for maybe another brand, or should I get another one IRC?

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby Kingstonian » Tue Jan 22, 2019 09:43 am

I wouldn't ride it any further, looks like it is ready to go bang at any time. Shouldn't really happen after such low mileage, as it appears to have just worn through the rubber down to the carcass.

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby zefs » Tue Jan 22, 2019 17:27 pm

Probably used the break too hard?

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Re: Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?

Postby SloppySchleckonds » Tue Jan 22, 2019 18:00 pm

Hit some debris or glass probably. Just bad luck rather than the tyre not being any good
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