Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

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Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby joey54321 » Mon May 14, 2018 09:46 am

As per the title really. During a road race do you carry anything in case you get a puncture?

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Slowbike » Mon May 14, 2018 10:21 am

That depends on where the race is ... and what you'd need.

I'm on clinchers - so for TTs I tend to carry a tube, a lever (or 2) plus 1 x gas - in the hope that I'll at least be able to ride back to HQ even if I don't get a time. Other TTers don't bother and just risk the walk - or phone for a lift.

Circuit "road" racers don't bother - it's such a slim chance and you're close to home anyway.

I think if I was out on a RR then I'd probably carry the tube, lever & gas as a minimum - it's hardly going to slow you down- but if there's a broom wagon that'll pick you up anyway then it's not worth the bother.

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Imposter » Mon May 14, 2018 11:36 am

Also depends on whether there is race service or not. Most open road circuits are relatively short loops anyway, and there is always going to be someone around to give you a lift back to HQ if needed. I've never bothered carrying anything and the only puncture I ever got during a road race was right next to the HQ anyway.. ;)

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Fenix » Mon May 14, 2018 12:28 pm

A clubmate punctured on a TT one year - he rode back to HQ - about 8 miles on it. If anyone wanted to destroy a carbon disc wheel - that's an excellent and quick way to do it...

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Matthewfalle » Mon May 14, 2018 17:30 pm

Fenix wrote:A clubmate punctured on a TT one year - he rode back to HQ - about 8 miles on it. If anyone wanted to destroy a carbon disc wheel - that's an excellent and quick way to do it...



Good to see his club mates looked out for him.

Clubbies, eh........
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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby TLW1 » Mon May 14, 2018 20:51 pm

Matthewfalle wrote:
Fenix wrote:A clubmate punctured on a TT one year - he rode back to HQ - about 8 miles on it. If anyone wanted to destroy a carbon disc wheel - that's an excellent and quick way to do it...



Good to see his club mates looked out for him.

Clubbies, eh........

I thought it was you............

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby thistle (MBNW) » Mon May 14, 2018 21:40 pm

Our club TT is short and there's loads of shortcuts back so don't carry anything for that.
Anything over a 10 miler I take my backpack (!) with tubes, pump, levers and keys just because I'm paranoid about losing them out of my jersey pockets when hitting/jumping a pothole.

I ordered one of those bottle cage tool holders from PlanetX that were £1 so I can stash stuff in there, just waiting for it to arrive.

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby cougie » Mon May 14, 2018 22:28 pm

35 years plus of cycling and I don't think I've ever had anything jump out of my jersey pockets.

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby thecycleclinic » Mon May 14, 2018 22:33 pm

I use tubeless so the most I carry is tyre worms but if I am wearing a skin suit I risk it and carry nothing. So far I have been lucky but I also don't race in fragile tyres.
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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Fenix » Tue May 15, 2018 09:14 am

Matthewfalle wrote:
Fenix wrote:A clubmate punctured on a TT one year - he rode back to HQ - about 8 miles on it. If anyone wanted to destroy a carbon disc wheel - that's an excellent and quick way to do it...



Good to see his club mates looked out for him.

Clubbies, eh........


"Clubbies" don't have a hive mind - how the hell were we supposed to know he was doing that ? I don't think I even saw him on the road at that race.

I think you've been watching too much pro cycling on TV. No following cars and radios for us.

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Slowbike » Tue May 15, 2018 09:53 am

thistle (MBNW) wrote:Our club TT is short and there's loads of shortcuts back so don't carry anything for that.
Anything over a 10 miler I take my backpack (!) with tubes, pump, levers and keys just because I'm paranoid about losing them out of my jersey pockets when hitting/jumping a pothole.

I ordered one of those bottle cage tool holders from PlanetX that were £1 so I can stash stuff in there, just waiting for it to arrive.


backpack on a TT?! flippin eck - most I'd do is wear a normal (tight) jersey - under a skinsuit if you like - and put a tube, lever & (gas) pump in there. Never had anything jump out of a jersey pocket and you should be avoiding potholes anyway. I'm more bothered about the aerodynamics of shuving a pump in my back pocket - but then figure it's not going to make a huge difference - and I'd rather not have to walk....

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby LWLondon » Tue May 15, 2018 11:52 am

thecycleclinic wrote:I use tubeless so the most I carry is tyre worms but if I am wearing a skin suit I risk it and carry nothing. So far I have been lucky but I also don't race in fragile tyres.


Is there not a bit of a juxtaposition between being so concerned with aero that you wear a skin suit, but not using good tyres?

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Imposter » Tue May 15, 2018 13:46 pm

LWLondon wrote:
thecycleclinic wrote:I use tubeless so the most I carry is tyre worms but if I am wearing a skin suit I risk it and carry nothing. So far I have been lucky but I also don't race in fragile tyres.


Is there not a bit of a juxtaposition between being so concerned with aero that you wear a skin suit, but not using good tyres?


Not really. The difference between 'good' tyres and 'average' tyres is fractional, IMO...

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Matthewfalle » Tue May 15, 2018 13:57 pm

Fenix wrote:
Matthewfalle wrote:
Fenix wrote:A clubmate punctured on a TT one year - he rode back to HQ - about 8 miles on it. If anyone wanted to destroy a carbon disc wheel - that's an excellent and quick way to do it...



Good to see his club mates looked out for him.

Clubbies, eh........


"Clubbies" don't have a hive mind - how the hell were we supposed to know he was doing that ? I don't think I even saw him on the road at that race.

I think you've been watching too much pro cycling on TV. No following cars and radios for us.


The fact he was either standing at the side of the road looking at his wheel with a flat tyre or riding bolt upright at 3mph wobbling everywhere on a bike with a flat tyre may have given it away.

Nice to know you lot look out for each other.
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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Matthewfalle » Tue May 15, 2018 13:59 pm

Back on track, rolled up pre taped tub in back pocket with a couple of co2 canisters in the other.
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D

smithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby whatleytom » Tue May 15, 2018 14:17 pm

Imposter wrote:
LWLondon wrote:
thecycleclinic wrote:I use tubeless so the most I carry is tyre worms but if I am wearing a skin suit I risk it and carry nothing. So far I have been lucky but I also don't race in fragile tyres.


Is there not a bit of a juxtaposition between being so concerned with aero that you wear a skin suit, but not using good tyres?


Not really. The difference between 'good' tyres and 'average' tyres is fractional, IMO...


Lol, whereas the difference between good tyres and bad ones is probably almost a minute on a quick 10 course.

Something like a gatorskin will have a CRR aproaching 0.006, whereas a tubeless vittoria corsa speed will be closer to 0.002.

Have a go on mywindsock on you're nearest TT course, should give you an idea of how important tyre choice can be in terms of rolling resistance alone.
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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Imposter » Tue May 15, 2018 21:55 pm

whatleytom wrote:
Lol, whereas the difference between good tyres and bad ones is probably almost a minute on a quick 10 course.

Something like a gatorskin will have a CRR aproaching 0.006, whereas a tubeless vittoria corsa speed will be closer to 0.002.

Have a go on mywindsock on you're nearest TT course, should give you an idea of how important tyre choice can be in terms of rolling resistance alone.


Like I say - fractional. Worth reminding people that the OP is talking about road races - not TTs. And if you miss out on a top 10 in your local evening crit - well, let's just say it won't be because of the .004 loss in CRR...

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Andymaxy » Tue May 15, 2018 22:02 pm

Lucky enough where I live pretty much all races have neutral support, besides those weekly races where everyone get together and just have fun. I don't see any riders bring spare here because of the awesome support crew.

Personally I don't bring anything because I run tubeless tires and there is a very very low chance of puncture. Even if there isn't any neutral support and that I'm running clincher, I wouldn't bring spare because that defeats the purpose. If you get a puncture during a race, then by the time you fix it it's race over for you, so I wouldn't even bother to carry the extra weight.

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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby whatleytom » Wed May 16, 2018 09:24 am

Imposter wrote:
whatleytom wrote:
Lol, whereas the difference between good tyres and bad ones is probably almost a minute on a quick 10 course.

Something like a gatorskin will have a CRR aproaching 0.006, whereas a tubeless vittoria corsa speed will be closer to 0.002.

Have a go on mywindsock on you're nearest TT course, should give you an idea of how important tyre choice can be in terms of rolling resistance alone.


Like I say - fractional. Worth reminding people that the OP is talking about road races - not TTs. And if you miss out on a top 10 in your local evening crit - well, let's just say it won't be because of the .004 loss in CRR...


Hardly fractional, the difference between that amount of CRR is probably getting close to 15w. Tell me you wouldn't feel the fresher being able to average 15w less sitting in the bunch after an hour of racing.
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Re: Do you carry puncture equipment in a race?

Postby Imposter » Wed May 16, 2018 10:04 am

whatleytom wrote:
Imposter wrote:
whatleytom wrote:
Lol, whereas the difference between good tyres and bad ones is probably almost a minute on a quick 10 course.

Something like a gatorskin will have a CRR aproaching 0.006, whereas a tubeless vittoria corsa speed will be closer to 0.002.

Have a go on mywindsock on you're nearest TT course, should give you an idea of how important tyre choice can be in terms of rolling resistance alone.


Like I say - fractional. Worth reminding people that the OP is talking about road races - not TTs. And if you miss out on a top 10 in your local evening crit - well, let's just say it won't be because of the .004 loss in CRR...


Hardly fractional, the difference between that amount of CRR is probably getting close to 15w. Tell me you wouldn't feel the fresher being able to average 15w less sitting in the bunch after an hour of racing.


Freshness after an hour of racing has more to do with how much work you have done/had to do during the race and whether you have sat in for an hour, or spent the race attacking or off the front. It really has fck all to do with your tyres.


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