roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

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roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby shakyjake » Fri Feb 22, 2013 15:50 pm

Hi folks

Complete roadie and winter riding newb here. Phew! Now that I've that off my chest I will just explain my subject title.

I took the plunge and bought a triban 3 roadie last month and ive so far done 3 semi decent rides. The first 2 were a doddle (7&12 miles respectively) however the 3rd ride I did yesterday (25 miles) was a really punishing experience Because it was so cold. That said I feel better for doing it mind you.

It was just so bitterly cold! Now i went out wearing basic stuff which is not bike specific so I obviously need some windproof and high vis clothing. I did manage to get cold knees, cold feet, cold hands and a cold head. The whole caboodle really. That said I am a bit on the large side and on a bit of a budget. Is there is any semi decent clothing range out there that I should be looking at that is likely to fit me and for a decent price?

Let's say £100 budget for the whole head to toe experience with an emphasis on a decent jacket.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks for reading folks.

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Re: roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby arran77 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:07 pm

Decent kit will definitely improve your riding experience although £100 is going to be a bit of a stretch if you need the lot, bib tights, base layer, long sleeve jersey, jacket, gloves etc, having said that it could be done if you shop around, DHB stuff at wiggle is good value and decent quality too :)
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Re: roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby Rolf F » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:17 pm

For me the jacket is the least significant item. If you can cover warmth by relatively cheap baselayers, then all you'll need on top is something windproof. I keep perfectly warm in these sorts of temperatures with a cheap Aldi Merino baselayer and softshell jacket with a thin windproof on top but an extra layer and long sleeve jersey would serve instead of the jacket.
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Postby Slowbike » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:22 pm

Hmm - for me a reasonable jacket is a must - keep the core warm and the rest will be warmer...

Mountain Warehouse do some basic kit - along with a suitable jacket - I've been wearing that jacket all winter - just changing my layers underneath depending on the temp. It's wind/waterproof - so you do sweat a bit, but for the hour or two rides it's fine. If you've got some tech clothing to wear underneath then fine - if not a t-shirt and longsleeve jersey will be fine.

Around the neck I'd wear a buff - these are fairly cheap too ... just keeping the neck and face warmer helps you get into the ride.

Legs - I normally ride in bib tights - but you can get away with trousers if you're careful about the ankle area.

Last bit - gloves - I just wear ski gloves if it's really cold as I have an old pair ... or some Sealskins ... they're nice, but getting on a bit now so I don't mind wearing them on the bike.

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Re: roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby sancho_uk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:28 pm

Everyone is different but I have got by in these cold winter times by:

Base Layers (DHB £20) Wiggle, this is the item I have never not worn brilliant!
Cycle Jersey (Choose your own) over the top of said base layer
Bib padded shorts (Rutland £15) (obviously these go under the above).. I have had some strange looks going out in the freezing cold in shorts but once I set off, My legs dont get cold.. If they did i would just try and pedal harder :)
Cycle Socks (choose your own)
Cycle Shoes (choose your own)
Toe Warmers (DHB Wiggle £8) can not recommend these enough when its cold simply slip over your shoes.
Helmet (obviously)
Gloves (I got some SealSkinz off eBay about £20 i think waterproof and do the trick brilliantly)
Glasses (A must in my eyes pardon the pun)

I do have a Waterproof jacket which was a bit expensive compared to the rest of my kit but honestly if you are just riding in the dry, by the time you have layered up with Bib Shorts, Baselayer and Jersey you will be surprised how warm it will keep you...
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Postby keef66 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:34 pm

Wot they said really. I have some DHB roubaix bib tights which are warm enough to see me venturing out in this weather. On the top I wear a long sleeved merino base layer with a windproof softshell over the top. Feet are very important; Wooly Boolie merino socks inside my cycling shoes and Planet X neoprene overshoes outside. For gloves I have some Alturas the name of which escapes me; borderline warm enough in this weather. Neck and lower face is covered by a Buff, and beneath my helmet I wear either a beanie or another Buff. I stop my eyes streaming by wearing a £7 pair of Bolle Contour safety specs.

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Postby keef66 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:37 pm

sancho_uk wrote:Everyone is different but I have got by in these cold winter times by:

Base Layers (DHB £20) Wiggle, this is the item I have never not worn brilliant!
Cycle Jersey (Choose your own) over the top of said base layer
Bib padded shorts (Rutland £15) (obviously these go under the above).. I have had some strange looks going out in the freezing cold in shorts but once I set off, My legs dont get cold.. If they did i would just try and pedal harder :)


You seriously going out in these temperatures in shorts!!!??

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Postby sancho_uk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:40 pm

Yeah seriously.. Genuinely doesnt bother me..

I tend to feel the cold more alot more up top than on the legs..
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Postby keef66 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:46 pm

sancho_uk wrote:Yeah seriously.. Genuinely doesnt bother me..

I tend to feel the cold more alot more up top than on the legs..


Faaark! My gonads are shrivelling at the thought of it.

To the OP, feel free to try shorts if you like, but you'd be well advised to familiarise yourself with the symptoms of frostbite first :shock:

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Postby Supermurph09 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:50 pm

Decathlon do cheap leg and arm warmers. Also some decent base layers (£9.99).

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Postby sancho_uk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:51 pm

Haha come on its not that bad :)

That is why i said each to their own at the start of my post, as all my riding buddies wear tights.. To be honest i keep meaning to pick some up just havent got around to it.. (I should also add my Gonads are will protected behind decent underwear and the bib shorts)
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Postby Slowbike » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:52 pm

sancho_uk wrote:Yeah seriously.. Genuinely doesnt bother me..

I tend to feel the cold more alot more up top than on the legs..

Don't worry about your knees - you can always have a knee op later on in life! ;)

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Re: roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby Druidor » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:54 pm

Face Mask - Ebay £4
More Miles long sleeve cycling Jersy - Ebay £20
T-Shirt
Winter Leggings (Missus bough me them from Aldi)
Thicker Socks
Trainers
Fingerless Gloves (Need some winter ones)

A tad cold when I start but after 5 min its either I have lost feeling or I am warmed up, Bought a mask as I hate my face being cold & it covers my ears too.

If feeling to cold My old golf windjammer top as an extra layer

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Postby shakyjake » Fri Feb 22, 2013 16:55 pm

Thanks for the comments folks. £100 is only a guide but I don't want to go mad and buy everything in site only to find that its crip.

With hindsight however I went out probably as ill prepared as you can get. I went out in shorts, trainers, tshirt, and a hiking base layer and helmet. So it seems that anything purpose built, windproof would be a definite win.

Thanks for the advice so fdar. Too. Its much appreciated and its given me some useful pointers.

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Re: roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby Mikey23 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 17:43 pm

Merino base, long sleeved cycling jersey, bib tights, breathable wind/ rainproof top, merino waterproof socks over normal socks, two layer gloves, woolly hat underneath helmet and I was still freezing today...

I have built my stuff up over time and a couple of Christmas and birthdays as it is so expensive to get good gear that is comfy and does the business. Did make the mistake of thinking that old running gear would be ok to use. Like you I learned the hard way!

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Re: roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby Mikey41 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 18:04 pm

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That little lot does me.

Aldi base layer - leggings and top.
Mountain Warehouse wicking T shirt
Lidl arm warmers
Lidl long sleeve Jersey
Shorts - These are Endura, but could equally use my £15 Altura ones.
Lidl Leg warmers
Overshoes
wool gloves to go under mitts - surprised how warm this is, and the wool gloves are v-cheap!
Buff
Folding rainproof - just in case.
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Postby coriordan » Fri Feb 22, 2013 18:14 pm

Tights - 45 quid from CRC private sale. (the Campag ones - housemate just got them and they are lovely) (down from 150)
Gloves - 10 quid or so - planet x
Jacket - 45 quid from CRC Private sale (the Campag one, again) (down from 150)

Anything you already have in your wardrobe should be sufficient to wear underneath. The gloves won't be the best but down to about 8 they'll be fine. (the sealskins sound good, or again, the campag ones from CRC private sale are only 19.20 and mentally warm, down from 65).

Not sure why the campy stuff is so cheap, but it is REALLY good. (I think most of it is going to be discontinued). Very tempted to get another jacket or some tights, but mine are actually fine.
I have an Endura Baa Baa base layer which I swear by, but they are about 35 quid. I was also lucky to get an Assos windproof warm jacket off here (predecessor to the 851) for £40 which I wear every winter day commuting or riding.

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Re: roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby Rolf F » Fri Feb 22, 2013 18:55 pm

Slowbike wrote:Hmm - for me a reasonable jacket is a must - keep the core warm and the rest will be warmer....


Yes, but you don't need a jacket to keep the core warm - at least not an expensive one. You can achieve the same results with careful layering for much less cost - I've only recently got an expensive-ish jacket (Gore Phantom) but I've managed perfectly well with the Aldi softshells and if I didn't have those I'd just layer more. Feet and hands do need a bit of thought though and for a hundred pound budget I'd be looking first for hand and feet stuff and then the roubaix tights.

With you on the ski gloves though these aren't warm enough for me either! Lucky this winter hasn't been particularly cold so far. I've yet to arrive at work with hands and feet in pain!
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Re: roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby shakyjake » Fri Feb 22, 2013 20:18 pm

Thanks guys!

That's a good shot too of your kit albeit intimidating he he.

I think I'll get by for now with the my hiking jacket and layers and spend some cash on decent gloves and overshoes for now.

Thanks

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Re: roadie clothing - learning the hard way!

Postby Mikey41 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 21:11 pm

hehe, it's not all that much, and it's only taken 5 months to collect.

Still, you know what was cold, so address those first and you'll be OK with what else you have for a while. Keep an eye out for Aldi and Lidl doing cycling sales. The Lidl jerseys and their bib longs were a tenner each and they're not bad.
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