Velo north cancelled

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby Craigus89 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:16 am

I'd rather ride the route with limited traffic than with 20K other riders.

I bet there will be quite a few riding the route that day anyway if they've booked accommodation. Might a bit busier than usual at all the pubs/cafes on the way round.

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby ugo.santalucia » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:42 am

yeah, all you need is to create a hashtag and people will gather for a ride

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby MrB123 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:53 am

The Winking Sheep should relaunch for this year on the weekend that Velo North was due to take place. They'd probably get a cracking turnout now as there must be plenty of people who booked travel and accommodation and plan to come to the area regardless of the cancellation.

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby k3vinjam3s » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:06 am

MrB123 wrote:The Winking Sheep should relaunch for this year on the weekend that Velo North was due to take place. They'd probably get a cracking turnout now as there must be plenty of people who booked travel and accommodation and plan to come to the area regardless of the cancellation.


I would be keen on this. Already looking for an alternative ride on that weekend.

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby ugo.santalucia » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:49 am

MrB123 wrote:The Winking Sheep should relaunch for this year on the weekend that Velo North was due to take place. They'd probably get a cracking turnout now as there must be plenty of people who booked travel and accommodation and plan to come to the area regardless of the cancellation.



Might be a bit late to set up a sportive... it take time to get organised, find volunteers etc...

On a more general note, I don't understand how these people can operate with such a flaky business model that half of the time makes a loss.
They take money well in advance in cash, they probably have a 20% overbooking built in (I am being conservative here), with no refunds to worry about, much better than airlines and hotels. They employ an army of volunteers, who work in exchange for a T-shirt. They even share the costs with local councils.
For comparison, in an Audax you charge 10% of the fee of a closed road sportive, typically offer more in terms of food and typically you would operate with a 20-30% profit margin, that allow to donate to charity, plan for future event or sponsor your club activity, if you have one.

In financial terms, the all thing is an absolute farce

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby PoweredByIdris » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:54 am

ugo.santalucia wrote:
MrB123 wrote:The Winking Sheep should relaunch for this year on the weekend that Velo North was due to take place. They'd probably get a cracking turnout now as there must be plenty of people who booked travel and accommodation and plan to come to the area regardless of the cancellation.



Might be a bit late to set up a sportive... it take time to get organised, find volunteers etc...

On a more general note, I don't understand how these people can operate with such a flaky business model that half of the time makes a loss.
They take money well in advance in cash, they probably have a 20% overbooking built in (I am being conservative here), with no refunds to worry about, much better than airlines and hotels. They employ an army of volunteers, who work in exchange for a T-shirt. They even share the costs with local councils.
For comparison, in an Audax you charge 10% of the fee of a closed road sportive, typically offer more in terms of food and typically you would operate with a 20-30% profit margin, that allow to donate to charity, plan for future event or sponsor your club activity, if you have one.

In financial terms, the all thing is an absolute farce


Think you've also described the Olympics there Ugo!

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby ugo.santalucia » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:59 am

PoweredByIdris wrote:
Think you've also described the Olympics there Ugo!


SO basically the economy of scale, which works wonders in manufacturing, distribution and services, seemingly works the opposite way round for sport events. :roll:
It would explain why football clubs seem to have hundreds of millions in revenue but operate at a loss

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby Flite » Fri Jul 05, 2019 20:43 pm

Velo29North
Another sportive has been hurriedly organised by Velo 29 to replace the cancelled Velo North on 1 Sept. Not closed roads, but a lot less expensive!

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby Webboo » Fri Jul 05, 2019 20:48 pm

ugo.santalucia wrote:
LakesLuddite wrote:
Yes Mojo, I have literally just seen this. Looks like a weekend in Durham sightseeing it is then. ffs.


Can you not ride the route on open roads by yourself? The traffic is hardly worth bothering with road closures in Northumberland...

I thought this event was in County Durham, so why would you have road closures in Northumberland.

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby k3vinjam3s » Sat Jul 06, 2019 07:32 am

Flite wrote:Velo29North
Another sportive has been hurriedly organised by Velo 29 to replace the cancelled Velo North on 1 Sept. Not closed roads, but a lot less expensive!



Seen this but not keen. Initially wanted to do velo north for the closed roads aspect and to encourage more like this in north east.

Not a fan of sportives unless theres a charity or community element. I know ill get flamed as obviously velo north wasnt charity minded or community spirited but it was on closed roads and i was doung it supporting prostate cancer uk.

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby wongataa » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:11 am

Webboo wrote:
ugo.santalucia wrote:
LakesLuddite wrote:
Yes Mojo, I have literally just seen this. Looks like a weekend in Durham sightseeing it is then. ffs.


Can you not ride the route on open roads by yourself? The traffic is hardly worth bothering with road closures in Northumberland...

I thought this event was in County Durham, so why would you have road closures in Northumberland.

It starts/ends in Durham. As it was 100 miles long you couldn't have a suitable route just in Durham so it went into the neighbouring counties.

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby durhamwasp » Mon Jul 08, 2019 07:59 am

All 100 miles of Velo North was in County Durham.
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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby ugo.santalucia » Mon Jul 08, 2019 08:07 am

durhamwasp wrote:All 100 miles of Velo North was in County Durham.


Thanks for clarifying... :D

It seems this forum has turned into a wasp nest of people who are only interested in pointing out inaccuracies in others' posts rather than in the actual topic...

I blame Zwift... :wink:

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Re: Velo north cancelled

Postby Me-109 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 09:12 am

ugo.santalucia wrote:
durhamwasp wrote:All 100 miles of Velo North was in County Durham.


Thanks for clarifying... :D

It seems this forum has turned into a wasp nest of people who are only interested in pointing out inaccuracies in others' posts rather than in the actual topic...

I blame Zwift... :wink:

...wasps'...
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