Etape du Tour 2019

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Etape du Tour 2019

Postby nellie72 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 16:00 pm

Sunday 21st July 2019

Albertville to Val Thorens - 131km

Keen to do my first Etape du Tour. Logistically looks a bit tricky due to start and finish being 40 miles apart. I am thinking stay in Moutiers which is roughly halfway and either cycle or transfer to the start. From the finish line to Moutiers is all downhill.

What's everyone's thoughts?
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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby minesgot2wheels » Thu Oct 25, 2018 16:51 pm

Sounds sensible.

Whilst the shortest route in a few years it looks like it could have the most climbing. So by no means a walk in the park!

Riding away from the finish is a good idea, they do normally have a bus that you can pay for a seat on that will take you back to the start. However looking at the road layout the bus will be caught in the same traffic as everyone else. Last year was terrible and there was more than one road out...

I had he same idea about moutiers, so given we’ve both thought about it best getting booking early!

Hope it works for you, it’s a great experience and massively recommended.

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby vpnikolov » Fri Oct 26, 2018 09:10 am

There is secure bike parking at the start, you can leave your bike there and just take a shuttle.

Me and my mates are staying in the village just under Val Thorens - Les Menuires.

4500m in three mountains... tasty. Not sure how to prepare for this one in the UK.........

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby Bikequin » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:00 am

Looks like one of the easier routes in recent years - the climb up to Val Thorens is long but not eye watering gradients.
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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby Dorset Boy » Fri Oct 26, 2018 17:53 pm

Where to stay will depend on whether you have a car (or cars) available to you out there. Moutiers to Albertville is no more than 15 minutes by car usually, so you could stay anywhere in the VT valley, drive to near Albertville for the start and then pick the car up in the late afternoon.

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby JS14 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:20 am

I haven't done the Etape for a few years, so I'll give it a try in 2019 even though the entry fee seems to be ever higher, 115€ this time :( . I bit the bullet and signed up today, so I am in :D. (The French online shop Alltricks, which is an EdT partner, has sent out a link which gives early access to online entries ahead of tomorrow's start for the general public.)

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby Dorset Boy » Mon Oct 29, 2018 17:23 pm

Almost sold out already - 3 days advance sales and less than 12 hours open to all.....

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby JS14 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 22:10 pm

This evening the EdT sites says it is sold out apart from some packages with accommodation included or fund raising places. All I can say is "Blimey, that was quick!"

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby minesgot2wheels » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:27 am

JS14 wrote:This evening the EdT sites says it is sold out apart from some packages with accommodation included or fund raising places. All I can say is "Blimey, that was quick!"


Indeed! By the time i'd got home from work and logged on all the 'normal' places had gone. In previous years it had been Christmas before it was sold out.

There was a comment above about pre-sales. How do you get access to those places? (so I know for next year)

4500m climbing is more than the last few years (average about 4000m iirc) and they are advising riding away from the finish so the claimed 135km is going to feel like a lot more once the day is done!

Good luck to those that got places, I'm hoping they'll open up a few more once things have settled down.

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby n1ckster » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:39 am

I think it is the 'pre-sales' tickets that have sold-out, and the more expensive general release of tickets go on sale on the 5th of November (according to various websites).

Definitely do not plan on being collected in VT, and I wouldn't be tempted to book the shuttle bus. There is only one road in and one road out so it won't be open to motorised traffic until the event has finished. Best bet by far is to freewheel the 35km downhill to Moutier and make arrangements from there.

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby ugo.santalucia » Tue Oct 30, 2018 13:06 pm

vpnikolov wrote:There is secure bike parking at the start, you can leave your bike there and just take a shuttle.

Me and my mates are staying in the village just under Val Thorens - Les Menuires.

4500m in three mountains... tasty. Not sure how to prepare for this one in the UK.........


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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby JS14 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 14:50 pm

n1ckster wrote:I think it is the 'pre-sales' tickets that have sold-out, and the more expensive general release of tickets go on sale on the 5th of November (according to various websites).

Definitely do not plan on being collected in VT, and I wouldn't be tempted to book the shuttle bus. There is only one road in and one road out so it won't be open to motorised traffic until the event has finished. Best bet by far is to freewheel the 35km downhill to Moutier and make arrangements from there.

Nick


If you look here, http://www.letapedutour.com/en/event/news#news-133-sold-out, they had already sold 13000 bibs yesterday evening before later announcing the event was sold out. The general sale started around midday yesterday.

There's an interview with ASO here (in French) https://www.velo101.com/cyclosport/article/thomas-delpeuch-edt-albertvilleval-thorens--20541 where one of the organisers suggests they will stop vehicles descending until 18:30 as there is no alternative route for the last 20km to Val Thorens, as Nick points out. Don't worry, say the organisers, you can amuse yourselves in the shops and restaurants while you wait! Don't forget your credit card and warm clothing...

I wonder if cyclists will be allowed down before. It could be pretty frightening if thousands are hurtling down at 60+ km/h on one side of the road whle the others are climbing up the other side.

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby minesgot2wheels » Tue Oct 30, 2018 14:54 pm

Hidden in the FAQs

How and when can I get back down from Val Thorens?

This year, the route is a unique road leading to Val Thorens for the last 20 kilometres. This road (D117) from Les Frênes (front D96) will therefore be completely closed to traffic from 9.30am to 7pm. For obvious safety reasons, ONLY cyclists will be tolerated on the way down from 1pm and at a very slow pace because they will be in the opposite direction of the race on a "semi-secure" and narrow corridor. Be careful, from Val Thorens to this intersection it will take about 45 minutes by bike.

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby JS14 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 21:59 pm

minesgot2wheels wrote:Hidden in the FAQs ...

Well spotted, and I'm reassured. A few years back, those already finished were descending the Semnoz to return to Annecy, some at 70km/h, and it would only have taken one to lose control of his bike on a bend and plough into the cyclists going up to cause a major accident.

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby JSS » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:07 pm

I've done my annual Etape route analysis:

https://www.sportive.com/cycling-traini ... al-thorens

Looks like a good but tough one...very weather dependent, I'd say...

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby minesgot2wheels » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:26 pm

Re: climb to Val Thorens "I think that is what is technically known as non trivia" LOL

My view is that I think it's going to be a lot harder than the 135km suggests.

I rode the Beaufort -> Cormet de Roselend -> Borg last year and I think your comments are spot on. The climb is gradual but long and again mostly in the trees. Once you're over the first summit of the main climb the view of the lake is stunning, i mean really stunning, but it's not actually the top there's still a fair way to go and you're out of the trees now. It should still be early so no need to worry about it being too hot, climbing in the heat, that may still be to come! IIRC the decent is mostly tree lined and fast. The hairpins, as you say, may catch a few people out but you can see them coming so should have time to take care (if you choose to).

2000+m climb to finish will be brutal, Izoard was challenging because of the heat, if it's the same for 2019 good luck!

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby Huntingforcake » Sat Nov 03, 2018 07:26 am

I have ridden most of that route (apart from VT). The climbs to that point are relatively steady and the descent of the Roselend (especially to the top half) is very fast.

You will have to descend the Col du Tra prior to VT - which is quite technical descent - steepish with 20 plus hairpins. I should have guessed it was in the Tour this year as the bottom half was being resurfaced - hopefully the potholes and gravel will be no longer!

Col du tra - http://1330roadcycling.com/project/notre-dame-du-pre/

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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby Teebs_123 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 09:40 am

What would be the best wheel options for the Etape? I have a set of carbon Wheelsmith 38mm wheels and some older H Plus Son Archetype alu rim wheels I could use.

Carbon still too much of a risk in the mountains? I've ridden the Alps before so my braking technique is ok..
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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby Matthewfalle » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:14 am

carbon is fine. use the carbons if you want.
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Re: Etape du Tour 2019

Postby KnightOfTheLongTights » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:50 am

Dear all - any tips as to where I might still acquire an entry only? I know officially it's sold out but some of these tour operators offer entry only I've been told?
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