La Vuelta 2019, Stage 19: Ávila > Toledo 13/09/2019 - 165,2 km *Spoilers*

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Re: La Vuelta 2019, Stage 19: Ávila > Toledo 13/09/2019 - 165,2 km *Spoilers*

Postby DeadCalm » Sat Sep 14, 2019 05:35 am

"There’s always a lot of confusion straight after a fall and it takes time to know who’s been affected, and who’s been held up behind. Before we knew he was down we were already 50 seconds in front and we had to keep chasing the break before the last climb of the day.

"It’s really unfortunate that it was the race leader who was caught up, but we didn’t have any choice but to keep going by the time we found out because there were other teams riding hard as well."


No not a Movistar DS speaking about yesterday but Team Sky Sports Director Marcus Ljungqvist defending their decision not to wait for Valverde on stage 4 of the 2012 Vuelta. At the time of Valverde's crash Sky were massing on the front but hadn't yet created any splits. Valverde claims it was the Sky riders pushing their way to the front that caused the crash. Sky did not wait for Valverde. Valverde lost the race lead.

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Re: La Vuelta 2019, Stage 19: Ávila > Toledo 13/09/2019 - 165,2 km *Spoilers*

Postby gsk82 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 06:30 am

I think wiggins's point was more about Roglic once again hiding in the bunch. These things keep happening to him because he's poorly positioned and that's a part of racing.
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Re: La Vuelta 2019, Stage 19: Ávila > Toledo 13/09/2019 - 165,2 km *Spoilers*

Postby Blazing Saddles » Sat Sep 14, 2019 07:00 am

DeadCalm wrote:"There’s always a lot of confusion straight after a fall and it takes time to know who’s been affected, and who’s been held up behind. Before we knew he was down we were already 50 seconds in front and we had to keep chasing the break before the last climb of the day.

"It’s really unfortunate that it was the race leader who was caught up, but we didn’t have any choice but to keep going by the time we found out because there were other teams riding hard as well."


No not a Movistar DS speaking about yesterday but Team Sky Sports Director Marcus Ljungqvist defending their decision not to wait for Valverde on stage 4 of the 2012 Vuelta. At the time of Valverde's crash Sky were massing on the front but hadn't yet created any splits. Valverde claims it was the Sky riders pushing their way to the front that caused the crash. Sky did not wait for Valverde. Valverde lost the race lead.



Seems fair to me. In 2012 the race was definitely on, before the crash.
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Re: La Vuelta 2019, Stage 19: Ávila > Toledo 13/09/2019 - 165,2 km *Spoilers*

Postby andyp » Sat Sep 14, 2019 07:01 am

DeadCalm wrote:"There’s always a lot of confusion straight after a fall and it takes time to know who’s been affected, and who’s been held up behind. Before we knew he was down we were already 50 seconds in front and we had to keep chasing the break before the last climb of the day.

"It’s really unfortunate that it was the race leader who was caught up, but we didn’t have any choice but to keep going by the time we found out because there were other teams riding hard as well."


No not a Movistar DS speaking about yesterday but Team Sky Sports Director Marcus Ljungqvist defending their decision not to wait for Valverde on stage 4 of the 2012 Vuelta. At the time of Valverde's crash Sky were massing on the front but hadn't yet created any splits. Valverde claims it was the Sky riders pushing their way to the front that caused the crash. Sky did not wait for Valverde. Valverde lost the race lead.


This kind of incident seems to happen to Valverde a lot. Almost as if teams like to stick the boot in when he experiences misfortune.

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Re: La Vuelta 2019, Stage 19: Ávila > Toledo 13/09/2019 - 165,2 km *Spoilers*

Postby TheBigBean » Sat Sep 14, 2019 07:59 am

It seems the commissaires agreed to allow drafting for the riders that fell i.e. they didn't just ignore it they actively encouraged it.

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Re: La Vuelta 2019, Stage 19: Ávila > Toledo 13/09/2019 - 165,2 km *Spoilers*

Postby DeVlaeminck » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:37 pm

Yes that's wrong by the comms IMO
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