What's the deal with Cav?

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What's the deal with Cav?

Postby curium » Fri Jul 13, 2018 22:23 pm

I know there are a bunch of sprinters in the peloton that never feature but I kind of feel embarrassed for Cav now because he's always being asked about the 4 wins he needs to tie the record for most wins and yet with every stage that passes it feels like they're taunting him by even asking it. He's barely sneaking into the top 10 on sprint stages and he's only going to get slower.

I know he's had a rough spring with a number of bad crashes but who goes to THE TOUR for the training miles?

Should he just retire?

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby cougie » Fri Jul 13, 2018 23:09 pm

A lot of people were saying the same in 2016 and he got four stages that year. He's not past it yet.

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby Dolan Driver » Fri Jul 13, 2018 23:11 pm

He sounded fairly pessimistic about things in the interview today. It will be interesting to see if he improves over the course of this race.

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby PBlakeney » Sat Jul 14, 2018 06:09 am

He is past it.
Yesterday was as perfect a day as a sprinter can ask for. He was nowhere.
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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby Milemuncher1 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 06:15 am

One of his problems this year, is that he’s lost a bit of weight. He clearly didn’t ask Wiggins for a Jiffy bag, and he seems to be down on power as well.

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby ShutupJens » Sat Jul 14, 2018 07:02 am

He;s not going for training miles though is he, he's had a crap spring with injuries and crashes, doesn't mean he has to sit out the tour does it, he just needs a little fortune to get his usual excellent standard results

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby Vino'sGhost » Sat Jul 14, 2018 07:10 am

Has he won at all this year?

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby OCDuPalais » Sat Jul 14, 2018 07:12 am

PBlakeney wrote:He is past it.
Yesterday was as perfect a day as a sprinter can ask for. He was nowhere.

Not strictly true: a bit up hilly/draggy then curve with slope down to the line... Cav looked over geared with about 300 to go.
Cav was in the mix before sitting up allowing 5 or 6 guys come past him. But yeah - can’t see him having much to answer Groenewegen with.

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby DeVlaeminck » Sat Jul 14, 2018 07:24 am

Has he even sprinted through the line yet. I know he says he's been bumped, blocked etc but it's worrying that he isn't even really opening up a sprint full gas . I'd like to see him at least sticking his nose in the wind and having a go.
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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby inseine » Sat Jul 14, 2018 07:47 am

Vino'sGhost wrote:Has he won at all this year?

Yes, Dubai

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby Vino'sGhost » Sat Jul 14, 2018 08:52 am

inseine wrote:
Vino'sGhost wrote:Has he won at all this year?

Yes, Dubai


Ah good. Its something at least.

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby inseine » Sat Jul 14, 2018 08:57 am

He did have the Epstein-Barr virus last year which some never really get over, then all those crashes this year and he is 33. This being contract year it wouldn’t be a total shock if it was his last season. We should probably make the most of watching him.

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby ddraver » Sat Jul 14, 2018 09:03 am

He's finished
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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby DeVlaeminck » Sat Jul 14, 2018 09:05 am

Being the sort of sprinter he is it's possible he's lost the edge due to age. That snap in the legs - the acceleration - tends to go before the big top end watts. Looking at him I think some of the disregard of danger has gone too, another attribute of youth. Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby TakeTheHighRoad » Sat Jul 14, 2018 09:08 am

inseine wrote:
Vino'sGhost wrote:Has he won at all this year?

Yes, Dubai


Kittel hasn't won since March either.

As INRNG says, he's coming back from 0, so it will be a big ask for him to even win 1 stage, something that he has consistently said.
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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby curium » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:03 am

TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
Kittel hasn't won since March either.

Goes to show what a rough game sprinting is. There was a time where I thought Cav was finished because Kittel looked too good. Kittel never really dominated in the way many expected and he already looks like he won't be a match for Gaviria and Viviani.

Patrick Lefevere has showed himself to be a wiley old fox - getting shot of sprinters (Cav & Kittel) once he sees they're past their peak and bringing in replacements.

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby durhamwasp » Sat Jul 14, 2018 15:18 pm

Is that the last 2 stages he's been in a good position and had some sort of unclipping of his fancy shoes and then sat up? Doesn't look up to it this year unfortunately, think he's finished i'm sad to say.
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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby cougie » Sat Jul 14, 2018 15:59 pm

Yesterday he looked ok until he cut across someone and clipped their front wheel. I didn't see him at all today.

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby Pross » Sat Jul 14, 2018 16:41 pm

Age will obviously start to catch up with him but the lack of racing this season is probably the biggest issue. He looked well placed today on the winner's wheel just before the sprint opened up then pulled his foot out. Still managed a top 10 without sprinting so there's still hope, unfortunately there's not much for him for a while now and lots of mountains to cross!

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Re: What's the deal with Cav?

Postby ds2288 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 16:50 pm

I think he’s done. I don’t see how he can sprint with the likes of Gaviria, Groenewegen and Sagan. Tactically and physically he is way behind the top sprinters, he’d need an awful lot of luck to get a stage win this year.


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