World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Talk about competitive road cycling in all its forms
User avatar
MajorMantra
Posts: 2053
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2008 21:29 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby MajorMantra » Mon Sep 30, 2013 09:20 am

TheEnglishman wrote:Speaking as an outsider who doesn't fully understand cycling races I have to say there needs to be a fair amount of PR/explanation as to why riders dropped out. It doesn't happen in many sports where people quit half way through.

It just doesn't look good. Sorry, but there it is.


From a few pages back, I think that there's a point here. Regardless of the reality of the race, the man on the street won't understand why a rider would drop out of the race before the finish if he is capable of finishing. Indeed the BBC Radio 4 news described the GB riders as "failing to complete the race" which completely misses the point. I mean, obviously they could complete it after being dropped if given sufficient time, but as we've explored there's really no point.

I'm not sure this attitude will change in the UK until the general public takes a more active interest in cycling and learns more about it, but currently there is what media types might call a presentational problem. :roll:

User avatar
frenchfighter
Posts: 29976
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2007 17:35 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby frenchfighter » Mon Sep 30, 2013 09:21 am

Taylor Phinney ‏@taylorphinney 18h
Rodriguez is a great guy, would be a very worthy world champion. Been podium in every grand tour but never won. Deserves a win like this.
Contador is the Greatest

User avatar
ddraver
Posts: 19643
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 15:57 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby ddraver » Mon Sep 30, 2013 09:23 am

I appear to be in a cynical mood this morning but I'd say the man on the street couldnt give a monkeys about what happened...
Last edited by ddraver on Tue Oct 01, 2013 07:33 am, edited 3 times in total.
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
- @ddraver
- Blog-http://davekio.wordpress.com/

GSVBagpuss
Posts: 252
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 16:52 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby GSVBagpuss » Mon Sep 30, 2013 09:41 am

Isn't is better that it was atleast being mentioned on the news - I can't imagine it would have made bulletins 5 years ago

User avatar
adr82
Posts: 4000
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:57 am

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby adr82 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 09:42 am

MajorMantra wrote:I'm not sure this attitude will change in the UK until the general public takes a more active interest in cycling and learns more about it, but currently there is what media types might call a presentational problem. :roll:

I thought this sort of thing would start to happen after Wiggins and then Froome won the TdF. For people who are new to cycling or only follow it casually, it'll seem a bit weird that we have cyclists who can win this famously difficult 3 week race but apparently fall apart completely in a one day championship. I don't think the media do a good job of explaining things like the way different courses suit different types of rider or how training/form/preparation/Wiggo moping around all influence things on the day. The fact that GB are currently so dominant on the track doesn't help either, especially as there's some overlap with the riders that are involved on the road (eg Thomas and Kennaugh). Not to sound too much like Frenchie but the track is a far more controlled (or controllable) environment than road racing, which suits the approach BC/Sky take down to the ground. It would be nice to see some more in-depth analysis than "Froome won the TdF back in July, therefore he is a top contender in this totally different type of race!".

User avatar
Blazing Saddles
Posts: 13688
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 13:11 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby Blazing Saddles » Mon Sep 30, 2013 09:44 am

ddraver wrote:I appear to be in a cynical mood this morning but I'd say the man on the street couldnt give a monkeys about what happened...


I too appear to be in a similar mood.
I'd say that some on here and the man in the street would be expressing the same sentiments.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.

MartinB2444
Posts: 261
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2011 17:47 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby MartinB2444 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:26 am

Quitting prematurely can become a habit. There are so many reasons for calling it a day during a bike race, your form doesn't feel good, the prize isn't worth it, it's too dangerous, save yourself for another day, niggly pain somewhere. Does the threshold for packing in come down a notch? Does the ruthless hard edge get blunted? These are elite pro athletes who are used to enduring pain and incredibly arduous training routines but so are their opponents. Some races come down to who is hardest.

User avatar
EPO Delivery Man
Posts: 260
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2013 15:35 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:27 am

I'm in a cynical mood too, despite my knowledge of road cycling, i thought it was a p*ss poor showing by the Brits.

Cav always says he loves the wet weather of the Isle of Man but pulls out. Wiggo pulls out, probably because 'he couldnt be bothered and wanted to see his kids'.
JTL looks like hes been on the 'red eggs and Edgar'...
And Froomey battles on but knows hes screwed with no team mates around him.

Yes yes yes...you can throw at me all the usual, they got dropped, there were crashes, no point continuing...blah blah blah...but we are 'supposed' to be a nation used to this kind of weather with experience of dealing with it, hell, most of those riders had just finished the Tour of Britain so they should be bloody weather experts. Instead they all wuss out to the comfort of the team bus. But the fact is, the riders battling at the front all came from warm countries!! it didnt stop them, so theres no bloody excuses.

if i didnt know any better, it was almost like Cav and Wiggo both said 'f*ck it..its only Froomey..and we dont like him much anyway so lets bug off and get a cuppa and play on the Playstation..'

Sh*t performance in my book. And i dont care what any of you so called armchair pros think either, you know it was sh*te.

1/10. Must do better. :evil:

User avatar
frenchfighter
Posts: 29976
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2007 17:35 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby frenchfighter » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:35 am

Seen very little criticism of Fabu, Gilbert, Sagan and similar riders. Is the consensus that they rode a fine race?
Contador is the Greatest

Richmond Racer
Posts: 8475
Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2012 17:11 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:35 am

Out of curiosity and in the interest of balance: what does everyone make of the Irish team's performance?

All abandoned but dont see much comment about them here

User avatar
frenchfighter
Posts: 29976
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2007 17:35 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby frenchfighter » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:39 am

IN CYCLING, THERE ARE DAYS SOMETIMES WHERE YOU HAVE TO TAKE RISKS. TODAY I TOOK ONE TOO MANY, BUT THAT'S THE SPORT, THAT'S CYCLING. LUCKILY, I'M FINE.
Image

“I was just unlucky to have crashed in the first lap. I roughed up my left side and had trouble re-entering afterwards,” Sagan said. “The Italians were going strong in the first two laps, they broke up the group. I was lucky to have re-entered.”
Contador is the Greatest

User avatar
EPO Delivery Man
Posts: 260
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2013 15:35 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:39 am

Richmond Racer wrote:Out of curiosity and in the interest of balance: what does everyone make of the Irish team's performance?

All abandoned but dont see much comment about them here




Thats because they are f*cking rubbish. :roll:

User avatar
frenchfighter
Posts: 29976
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2007 17:35 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby frenchfighter » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:43 am

Richmond Racer wrote:Out of curiosity and in the interest of balance: what does everyone make of the Irish team's performance?

All abandoned but dont see much comment about them here


Martin crashed hard lost 3mins and then chased taking back one before dropping out
Bennett crashed hard
Brammier was helping Martin
Roche crashed
Contador is the Greatest

User avatar
Yellow Peril
Posts: 4408
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 08:41 am

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby Yellow Peril » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:43 am

EPO Delivery Man wrote:I'm in a cynical mood too, despite my knowledge of road cycling, i thought it was a p*ss poor showing by the Brits.

Cav always says he loves the wet weather of the Isle of Man but pulls out. Wiggo pulls out, probably because 'he couldnt be bothered and wanted to see his kids'.
JTL looks like hes been on the 'red eggs and Edgar'...And Froomey battles on but knows hes screwed with no team mates around him.

Yes yes yes...you can throw at me all the usual, they got dropped, there were crashes, no point continuing...blah blah blah...but we are 'supposed' to be a nation used to this kind of weather with experience of dealing with it, hell, most of those riders had just finished the Tour of Britain so they should be bloody weather experts. Instead they all wuss out to the comfort of the team bus. But the fact is, the riders battling at the front all came from warm countries!! it didnt stop them, so theres no bloody excuses.

if i didnt know any better, it was almost like Cav and Wiggo both said 'f*ck it..its only Froomey..and we dont like him much anyway so lets bug off and get a cuppa and play on the Playstation..'

Sh*t performance in my book. And i dont care what any of you so called armchair pros think either, you know it was sh*te.

1/10. Must do better. :evil:


Cav did his turn and pulled out as expected.

JTL's performance was particularly sh1te as he wasn't even racing.

User avatar
frenchfighter
Posts: 29976
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2007 17:35 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby frenchfighter » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:43 am

Nicholas Roche ‏@nicholasroche 19h
@PuritoRodriguez Noooooo!!!! Grande numero hoy!! What a ride!!! Well done
Contador is the Greatest

rickyrider
Posts: 283
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:14 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby rickyrider » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:49 am

Phew - what a sh*tstorm... bad weekend to be away from all comms but nevermind. Reading the fall out appears to be as much fun as watching the actual race.

I've defended Wiggins in the past, but people like FF will be delighted to hear me say that I've seen enough now. Selfish tw*t.

User avatar
Mechanism
Posts: 890
Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 20:57 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby Mechanism » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:51 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOl2OPjewOE

Video of the carnage from Shimano service car point-of-view.

Richmond Racer
Posts: 8475
Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2012 17:11 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:53 am

EPO Delivery Man wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:Out of curiosity and in the interest of balance: what does everyone make of the Irish team's performance?

All abandoned but dont see much comment about them here




Thats because they are f*cking rubbish. :roll:




Dont be a fool. This year's winner of LBL/a Tour stage/ Volta a Catalunya, and the rider who finished 5th on GC at the Vuelta, are far from, as you so charmingly and erroneously put it, 'f*cking rubbish'

User avatar
Salsiccia1
Posts: 3412
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2010 08:02 am

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby Salsiccia1 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:53 am

rickyrider wrote:I've defended Wiggins in the past, but people like FF will be delighted to hear me say that I've seen enough now. Selfish tw*t.


I'm finding it hard not to come to the same conclusion. He hasn't covered himself in glory this year.
It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.

User avatar
frenchfighter
Posts: 29976
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2007 17:35 pm

Re: World Championship - ***SPOILERS***

Postby frenchfighter » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:54 am

Image
Contador is the Greatest


Return to “Pro Race”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 28 guests