rayjay wrote:Why do people get so wound up about the issue of Riders doping in cycling . They have always done it .FACT.
Why is it that all you Sky fans seem to think Nibali doped, yet when we ask the same questions about Sky you take such offence? .
loads of us don't get involved in this shitstorm or at least only the periphery.
That said I think its inportant pressure is put on us all looking at the yellow jersey to make sure.
there are basically three options apart from sitting on the wall, which is where we are really because the truth is we do not know.
option one.You believe Sky Froome et al are clean
option two. You believe Sky/BC cycling are systematically doping the "ukpostals" option. Note just froome on the gear but with team knowledge counts as systemic
option three. You believe Riders in Sky are DIY doping without team knowledge or consent. As soon as the team management discovers it and do nothing it becomes option two.
of all of those option 3 strikes me as the most unlikely...the team would just find out and if they have then we are into the ukpostals. And that strikes me as very unlikely for political reasons. if DB is pulling a fast one he is going to be strung up by his gonads when it comes out..and cycling credibility will drop to a debilitating low.
the sponsors all over will walk.
road racing out the olympics and by association with BC the track as well.
its too crazy to contemplate that they are dirty..its this that makes me give them the sliver of doubt required.
the area of sky I have a problem with is the hypocrisy of taking on the zero tolerance policy then hiring rodgers who may well be clean now but etc... and the whole we didn't know thing is ridiculous! DB saying he was shocked to learn about Larry was disturbing because his sincerity was only just below his norm so lying is not off his agenda in my estimation
At least at Garmin they basically said "look we are a bunch of dopers and we are trying to do something about it".
the two areas of scandal I am guessing as most likely is Froome at Barloworld? or discovering that Sky are doing things that are not banned but should be... new forms of intervention that act like PEDS.. this switching off the brain response to physical exertion thing using ECT or some-such voodoo
Or they really have looked at the training and got it right... they are straight as a die. nutrition and weight control has come along heaps
VAM etc... I haven't seen good numbers argued well but would note that the numbers arguing that Lance doped were not questioned as much by the fanbois base as the explanations given here as to why froome is in a comparative league of his own.
personally from a Wild Ar5e Guessing spectators' POV cycling looks a lot less doped than I can remember including Froome