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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby Tom Howard » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:34 am

Update on my carbon cranks, been down to the workshop today, seen an almost finished version and very happy. Got the extra 5mm of clearance desired and the weight saving is significant...

One of the challenges was attaching them to the axle without using the carbon to clamp them so as part of the metal insert that bonds into the crank there is an expander, so it clamps really well.

How much is significant I hear you cry? Well, I don’t have exact numbers, but not quite half the OEM ones
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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby Tom Howard » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:08 am

Gripshift be gone!

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Got an earlybird set of the Cinq Shift:r tour shifter from the kickstarter campaign, meaning I can ditch the grip shifter :D

All seems very well made, paddles feel really nice, and its a nice smooth action, will fit it tomorrow and report back!

The trickstuff brakes are allegedly getting shipped out this week, so fingers crossed there!

Bit of a setback with the cranks, they didn't pass ISO testing, so back to the drawing board a bit there, but still looking forward to them
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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby Tom Howard » Wed Jun 12, 2019 18:27 pm

Getting there...

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Just need to fine tune the cable tension a bit.

And the brakes are here! After first ordering in September. Worth it. CNC porn...

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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby swod1 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 08:51 am

Are those even more powerful than the direttissima?

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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby eric draven » Fri Jun 14, 2019 13:24 pm

Jeez!! those brakes look sublime

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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby JBA » Fri Jun 14, 2019 14:29 pm

For 1200 Euros I'd expect nothing less!
They are very sexy.
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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby Tom Howard » Fri Jun 14, 2019 18:50 pm

swod1 wrote:Are those even more powerful than the direttissima?


25% more power supposedly. From a longer lever, and bigger pistons.

JBA wrote:For 1200 Euros I'd expect nothing less!
They are very sexy.


Only €1100 with rotors & mounts thru kickstarter #bargain.

You'd think that would include a bleed kit wouldn't you? Nope, €29 extra. But at least that will include the (seemingly proprietary) hydraulic fluid, Bionol? Nope, €8 extra. Plus €13 delivery as I wasn't aware/told I needed it when I ordered the brakes and bleed kit, together...

Free t-shirt and bottle though... :roll:
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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby swod1 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 09:58 am

wow, that's a lot to spend on some brakes.

I'm getting some hope tech 3 e4s for my bike in the next month should be an excellent upgrade on a few year old xt m785 brakes.

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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby Tom Howard » Mon Jun 17, 2019 16:39 pm

It is, but I figure that if you are going to throw money at something to get the best, brakes isn’t a bad shout...

I actually really like the Mx85 series brakes, got M785 on my mukluk and M985 on my 5010 (and another on a previous Nomad). They aren’t the most outright powerful or the best modulated, but most of the power comes in really quickly, which I like. Oddly, I’ve had pretty much everything Hope make over the years, and really like everything, except the brakes...
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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby swod1 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:37 am

yes they have been great but now fancy something else, recently put hope discs on my bike and so might as well try the brakes out.

headsets and bottom brackets they are more renowned for.

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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby eric draven » Thu Jul 04, 2019 22:40 pm

swod1 wrote:yes they have been great but now fancy something else, recently put hope discs on my bike and so might as well try the brakes out.

headsets and bottom brackets they are more renowned for.

I went from XT M8000 to Hope E4's,I find the Hope's have more feel and power than the XT's,I was going to try some Zee's but just fancied a change as I'd been using Shimano's for years,Hope are defo nicer to look at

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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby Tom Howard » Fri Jul 05, 2019 13:47 pm

Not ridden them off-road yet (stupid foot…) but riding them down a really steep hill has revealed they they are a different level of ridiculous when it comes to power, but well modulated enough to not punt me over the bars at the first hint of squeezing the lever. Seems they have gone live on the website too, just a 9 short month lead time…

As for if they are worth the wait/money, probably not. There are plenty other brakes that are good enough, for 30% of the price of these, available straight away. But these are, by some distance, the best looking, best feeling and most powerful brakes I’ve ever used.
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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby DirkPitt74 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 14:27 pm

That's an awesome looking build Tom - nice one!

How have you found the paddle shift compared to the grip shift?
Is shift up on one side and down on the other?

Those brakes look well nice too - bit pricey for me though lol

Any news on the cranks?

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Re: Deviate Guide, ready to go!

Postby Tom Howard » Wed Aug 14, 2019 22:29 pm

Cheers, pretty pleased with how it’s turned out!

The shifting is... OK. It’s a single shift trigger, so it’s not great for making massive jumps though the ‘box, but I rarely need to change more than 3 at once anyway, due to the fairly big gaps in ratios.

The main benefit for me, is that the grips are now the same shape, with no play in the shifter part of the grip, makes it much more comfortable on descents.

I’ve actually upgraded the brakes :-D as I spilt hydraulic fluid on the rotors, so any excuse for these...

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2.25mm Intend Aero 203mm. Because reasons.

All seems to have gone quiet on the crank front, I’ll give them a chase, see where they are at.

You like this, wait till you see what I’ve got in the works ;-)
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