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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    As evidenced by stand up comedy. There isn’t a lot of good right wing humour.

    Maybe those on the right should try posting something funny once in a while.
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    Stevo_666 said:

    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    It's funny isn't it? I can think of one prolific poster who would be to the left of Millie Tant of Viz fame and many is the time I come away from debates in here feeling like I've listened to a 3 hour monologue by James O'Brien. I would say Blairite is a reasonable description of the prevailing standpoint of your average cakestopper though.

    And there's one who likes to position himself to the right of Genghis Khan (but probably wouldn't like the comparison).

    James O'Brien isn't far left is he? Left of centre, sure. Far to the left of some others on the same station, sure.
    Who could you possibly mean? 😊
    I think I know who he means.

    But its more than left/right etc. There also the PC/wokey dokey wars. Aside fom the general lack of humour in here.
    Absolutely agree to both.

  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,483
    shortfall said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    It's funny isn't it? I can think of one prolific poster who would be to the left of Millie Tant of Viz fame and many is the time I come away from debates in here feeling like I've listened to a 3 hour monologue by James O'Brien. I would say Blairite is a reasonable description of the prevailing standpoint of your average cakestopper though.

    And there's one who likes to position himself to the right of Genghis Khan (but probably wouldn't like the comparison).

    James O'Brien isn't far left is he? Left of centre, sure. Far to the left of some others on the same station, sure.
    Who could you possibly mean? 😊
    I think I know who he means.

    But its more than left/right etc. There also the PC/wokey dokey wars. Aside fom the general lack of humour in here.
    Absolutely agree to both.

    I think that's just passing 50. 😏
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  • Pross
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    Pross said:

    rjsterry said:

    shortfall said:

    ddraver said:

    It could be worse....

    That our local lib dem member is painted as the living embodiment of the marxist red scare suggests that the forum skews rather right, but I occasionally dip into a US based ski forum and that is a whole box of....

    Cakestop skews right? Really? I think there's only Stevo who admits to voting Tory and have you seen the hate the Conservatives get across a number of threads? Not to mention the bile aimed at GB News before it's even launched. Where are all the right wing posters? There's me I suppose, but I'm one of the few to be concerned with liberty and the increasing authoritarian actions of the government, and I also support nationalised railways, I'm not a free markets hawk and I've been against most of the foreign wars and interventions in recent memory from Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Lybia.
    There are quite a few who at least used to vote Tory before the party lost its mind.
    This. I voted Tory in every GE from 1992 to 2015 but it then became apparent that they were becoming controlled from the fringes.

    More odd is someone who is concerned about authoritarianism and civil liberties voting for a right of centre party and the very party introducing the laws they are so opposed to then complaining about liberals.
    If you were worried about control from the fringes please tell me you didn't vote labour?
    No, I wasted a vote by going Lib Dem. Not that it matters in this part of Wales, my constituency has been Labour since it was created in 1983 with the exception of that first election where it was Tory by less than 500 votes.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,207
    Ben6899 said:

    Ah, Islington resident then... ;-)

    I think the problem with him biding his time is he's being rational about it, and thinks the more the Govt mess up, the less support they will have.
    The issue is voters seem to like hearing things that may not be true, but suit their thinking, and ignore or dismiss things they shouldn't like.

    Camden, but actually will be Islington soon!

    Yeh that's the danger with his tactic and we've actually seen that confidence in the current government is high. Incredibly.
    I'm doing a job your way then. Planning was in Islington, went to get the road design approved and got told they belong to Camden!
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    I worked for 10 years in the Borough of Camden, in Kentish Town. Wasn't working for Rapha though. I did know a couple of people who worked for them though in customer service.
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  • Ben6899
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    @Pross a lot of the roads in London form borough boundaries. Good luck!

    @elbowloh Rapha have moved now, as you probably know. Used to be able to spy all the test kit from the KT West Overground platform, in their old warehouse building on Perren Street. :smile:
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  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    morstar said:

    As evidenced by stand up comedy. There isn’t a lot of good right wing humour.

    Maybe those on the right should try posting something funny once in a while.

    Here's a right wing joke for you.
    Q. What did socialists use before candles?
    A. Electricity
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,098
    I think of more of an issue on here is not party allegiances - I've never voted Tory (I'm 52) but just found myself agreeing with some of what Steve Baker just said on the radio.
    More of an issue is the excess of testosterone, which can result in some fairly unpleasant debate.
    The British political system is stupidly polarised due to the FPTP system, with the standard of debate and nuance in politics utterly vacuous for the most part.

    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,098
    shortfall said:

    morstar said:

    As evidenced by stand up comedy. There isn’t a lot of good right wing humour.

    Maybe those on the right should try posting something funny once in a while.

    Here's a right wing joke for you.
    Q. What did socialists use before candles?
    A. Electricity
    The suggestion was that someone from the right should post something funny. Still waiting...

    PS: do you use the NHS? That's the very essence of a socialist system.

    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    secretsam said:

    shortfall said:

    morstar said:

    As evidenced by stand up comedy. There isn’t a lot of good right wing humour.

    Maybe those on the right should try posting something funny once in a while.

    Here's a right wing joke for you.
    Q. What did socialists use before candles?
    A. Electricity
    The suggestion was that someone from the right should post something funny. Still waiting...

    PS: do you use the NHS? That's the very essence of a socialist system.
    I see what you did there. Ouch, there goes another rib 😁
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,628
    secretsam said:

    shortfall said:

    morstar said:

    As evidenced by stand up comedy. There isn’t a lot of good right wing humour.

    Maybe those on the right should try posting something funny once in a while.

    Here's a right wing joke for you.
    Q. What did socialists use before candles?
    A. Electricity
    The suggestion was that someone from the right should post something funny. Still waiting...

    PS: do you use the NHS? That's the very essence of a socialist system.
    As are roads, schools, bin collections, Police & Fire service, etc etc

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,123
    Stevo_666 said:

    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    It's funny isn't it? I can think of one prolific poster who would be to the left of Millie Tant of Viz fame and many is the time I come away from debates in here feeling like I've listened to a 3 hour monologue by James O'Brien. I would say Blairite is a reasonable description of the prevailing standpoint of your average cakestopper though.

    And there's one who likes to position himself to the right of Genghis Khan (but probably wouldn't like the comparison).

    James O'Brien isn't far left is he? Left of centre, sure. Far to the left of some others on the same station, sure.
    Who could you possibly mean? 😊
    I think I know who he means.

    But its more than left/right etc. There also the PC/wokey dokey wars. Aside fom the general lack of humour in here.
    Calling anything that someone is against "woke" is all that defines the right just now.

    It's definitely not small state, low taxes, anti authoritarian, is it?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,864

    Stevo_666 said:

    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    It's funny isn't it? I can think of one prolific poster who would be to the left of Millie Tant of Viz fame and many is the time I come away from debates in here feeling like I've listened to a 3 hour monologue by James O'Brien. I would say Blairite is a reasonable description of the prevailing standpoint of your average cakestopper though.

    And there's one who likes to position himself to the right of Genghis Khan (but probably wouldn't like the comparison).

    James O'Brien isn't far left is he? Left of centre, sure. Far to the left of some others on the same station, sure.
    Who could you possibly mean? 😊
    I think I know who he means.

    But its more than left/right etc. There also the PC/wokey dokey wars. Aside fom the general lack of humour in here.
    Calling anything that someone is against "woke" is all that defines the right just now.

    It's definitely not small state, low taxes, anti authoritarian, is it?
    is it not more a case that populist Govts have learned to engage in irrelevant dog whistle games for the duration of their term not just in the weeks leading upto elections.

    Look at the way Boris's supporters on here have been triggered by flags, EU and woke
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,098
    The thing with those who comment that "most comedians are lefties", it's probably drawn from the fact that most political comedy is aimed at the Tories, because they are in power - and have been for over a decade. So, inevitably, they are the target.

    However, political comedy can be just as scathing about the left - plenty of targeting of Corbyn, Milliband, Blair, etc. And look back to history and Spitting Image (the original one) used to slaughter Labour, the Tories, anyone.

    For most comedians, we simply don't know what their personal politics are - they just comment on what's put in front of them. At the moment, that's Tories.

    It's a huge irony that one right-wing comic, Geoff Norcott, owes much of his success to The Mash Report.

    PS I don't find Norcott funny, just a mildly amusing contrarian.

    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,098

    Stevo_666 said:

    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    It's funny isn't it? I can think of one prolific poster who would be to the left of Millie Tant of Viz fame and many is the time I come away from debates in here feeling like I've listened to a 3 hour monologue by James O'Brien. I would say Blairite is a reasonable description of the prevailing standpoint of your average cakestopper though.

    And there's one who likes to position himself to the right of Genghis Khan (but probably wouldn't like the comparison).

    James O'Brien isn't far left is he? Left of centre, sure. Far to the left of some others on the same station, sure.
    Who could you possibly mean? 😊
    I think I know who he means.

    But its more than left/right etc. There also the PC/wokey dokey wars. Aside fom the general lack of humour in here.
    Calling anything that someone is against "woke" is all that defines the right just now.

    It's definitely not small state, low taxes, anti authoritarian, is it?
    is it not more a case that populist Govts have learned to engage in irrelevant dog whistle games for the duration of their term not just in the weeks leading upto elections.

    Look at the way Boris's supporters on here have been triggered by flags, EU and woke
    Yup, it's a classic diversionary tactic - don't look at me, look at him, he's even more rubbish, and he disagrees with you.

    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,864
    secretsam said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    It's funny isn't it? I can think of one prolific poster who would be to the left of Millie Tant of Viz fame and many is the time I come away from debates in here feeling like I've listened to a 3 hour monologue by James O'Brien. I would say Blairite is a reasonable description of the prevailing standpoint of your average cakestopper though.

    And there's one who likes to position himself to the right of Genghis Khan (but probably wouldn't like the comparison).

    James O'Brien isn't far left is he? Left of centre, sure. Far to the left of some others on the same station, sure.
    Who could you possibly mean? 😊
    I think I know who he means.

    But its more than left/right etc. There also the PC/wokey dokey wars. Aside fom the general lack of humour in here.
    Calling anything that someone is against "woke" is all that defines the right just now.

    It's definitely not small state, low taxes, anti authoritarian, is it?
    is it not more a case that populist Govts have learned to engage in irrelevant dog whistle games for the duration of their term not just in the weeks leading upto elections.

    Look at the way Boris's supporters on here have been triggered by flags, EU and woke
    Yup, it's a classic diversionary tactic - don't look at me, look at him, he's even more rubbish, and he disagrees with you.
    I think it is worse than that as this versions purpose is to cause diversion by stoking up anger and division
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,149
    shortfall said:

    secretsam said:

    shortfall said:

    morstar said:

    As evidenced by stand up comedy. There isn’t a lot of good right wing humour.

    Maybe those on the right should try posting something funny once in a while.

    Here's a right wing joke for you.
    Q. What did socialists use before candles?
    A. Electricity
    The suggestion was that someone from the right should post something funny. Still waiting...

    PS: do you use the NHS? That's the very essence of a socialist system.
    I see what you did there. Ouch, there goes another rib 😁
    What was I saying about lefties having no sense of humour....

    :smile:
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,123
    Comedy police want a word.


  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,348
    It's amazing how often the humour posts are closely associated with the poster having written some absolute horseshit and then trying to back out of it by pretending it was a 'joke' and it's other peoples fault for 'not getting it'.

    It's almost 100%...

    oops, sorry forgot the ;)
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    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,149
    ddraver said:

    It's amazing how often the humour posts are closely associated with the poster having written some absolute horseshit and then trying to back out of it by pretending it was a 'joke' and it's other peoples fault for 'not getting it'.

    It's almost 100%...

    oops, sorry forgot the ;)

    Looks like you've pre-emptively classified your post as a joke :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,348
    Interesting you felt threatened by it... ;)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,277
    ddraver said:

    Interesting you felt threatened by it... ;)


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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,348
    Better actor tho...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,149
    ddraver said:

    Interesting you felt threatened by it... ;)

    Why do you think that?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    ddraver said:

    It doesn't skew right, but equally, I suspect a majority of us have voted Tory at some point, and this isn't the leftie stronghold it's sometimes made out to be.

    We don't have a single open Labour voter. Not a one! Not even a reluctant Keir Starmer voter...

    Not to mention that the very youngest of us are mid-thirties, (?)married, (?)home owners with kids.

    Of course it's skewed right!
    we've got full spectrum lefties, anti royalist, redistribution of wealth twunts. its just that most of the lefty contributors are also ultra privileged and live in the Home Counties, have never worked for much in their lives and feel their mental health is something others should care about but at the same time go on crusades for those who they and the popular self-indulgent people like them feel are downtrodden and can't look after themselves; this group appears to include women, black people, gay people, muslims and terrorists.

    In fact everyone but them. which raises interesting questions about their own delusional egos.

    Its a great place :)



  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313

    ddraver said:

    Neither Brown nor Miliband were tories...

    and yet Boris has borrowed huge chunks of their manifestos. JC wanted to raise corporation tax to an eye bleedingly high 26% and was denounced as a deranged trot trying to destroy the UK economy. Why do the same denouncers not denounce Boris/Rishi as deranged trots trying to destroy the UK economy?

    Blair was not a Tory yet his economic policies were way to the right of the current Govt.

    Imagine if Starmer introduced a manifesto promising fiscal prudence and a rolling back of the State to leave individuals with more freedom to make their own decisions?

    Insanely millions would vote for the blue rosette because that is what they always do even though that rosette now stands for all of the things they pasionately argued against ten years ago
    that isn't a serious question is it?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,123

  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313

    secretsam said:

    shortfall said:

    morstar said:

    As evidenced by stand up comedy. There isn’t a lot of good right wing humour.

    Maybe those on the right should try posting something funny once in a while.

    Here's a right wing joke for you.
    Q. What did socialists use before candles?
    A. Electricity
    The suggestion was that someone from the right should post something funny. Still waiting...

    PS: do you use the NHS? That's the very essence of a socialist system.
    As are roads, schools, bin collections, Police & Fire service, etc etc

    and all paid for by the private sector.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 14,498
    david37 said:

    secretsam said:

    shortfall said:

    morstar said:

    As evidenced by stand up comedy. There isn’t a lot of good right wing humour.

    Maybe those on the right should try posting something funny once in a while.

    Here's a right wing joke for you.
    Q. What did socialists use before candles?
    A. Electricity
    The suggestion was that someone from the right should post something funny. Still waiting...

    PS: do you use the NHS? That's the very essence of a socialist system.
    As are roads, schools, bin collections, Police & Fire service, etc etc

    and all paid for by the private sector.
    The infratructue is also used by the private sector. Consider it "rent".