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  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,422

    Watching Milan-San Remo live is a total waste of a Saturday afternoon.

    It's not like there's a whole load of stuff to do at the moment...
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196

    Watching Milan-San Remo live is a total waste of a Saturday afternoon.

    It's not like there's a whole load of stuff to do at the moment...
    Cricket's on...
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,200
    Pinot's tears abandoning TdF last year aren't a heart-rending manifestation of his humanity, they're the evidence of a fragile, cosseted ego, a little boy who has never grown up.

    Am I doing this right?
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,348
    If AtC and RR were still active on here I'd fear for your life...so yes!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,878
    Paris-Roubaix is better than Flanders.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    P-R type cobbles have no place in the Tour
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    RichN95. said:

    The idea of a 'Patron' (like Hinault especially) is just toxic masculinity and bullying

    All the antipathy against Froome since 2012 is just a surrogate for Armstrong


    An opinion that may not be unpopular - The way the French view cycling and the way England see football is very similar and have the same failings and solutions

    I don't see any of them as controversial
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,200
    ddraver said:

    If AtC and RR were still active on here I'd fear for your life...so yes!

    Snitches get stitches.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,130

    Watching Milan-San Remo live is a total waste of a Saturday afternoon.

    It's normally a great hour of racing.
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,422

    Watching Milan-San Remo live is a total waste of a Saturday afternoon.

    It's not like there's a whole load of stuff to do at the moment...
    Cricket's on...
    Ha I just posted in other thread about MSR surely being better than watching cricket. (As a proud scot it's in my DNA to not be interested in cricket.)
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,172
    Alf Engers would have beaten Merckx hour record, had he had a chance
    left the forum March 2023
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 13,200
    Profiles should show distance to go, not distanced covered, to match with viewing on TV and save us having to do any maths.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,213

    Profiles should show distance to go, not distanced covered, to match with viewing on TV and save us having to do any maths.

    Profiles should be shown at natural scale so we realise the terrain isn't all that tough after all.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,213

    Paris-Roubaix is better than Flanders.

    That's fact so not really unpopular.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,196

    Profiles should show distance to go, not distanced covered, to match with viewing on TV and save us having to do any maths.

    This isn't controversial!
  • Alf Engers would have beaten Merckx hour record, had he had a chance

    Bold statement, ugo. Based on?
    Not a Giro Hero!
  • 50x11
    50x11 Posts: 408
    edited August 2020
    Wrong thread
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,099
    Mercx was the previous Evenepoel.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • DeadCalm said:

    Mercx was the previous Evenepoel.

    Controversial, l like it!
    Not a Giro Hero!
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,172

    Alf Engers would have beaten Merckx hour record, had he had a chance

    Bold statement, ugo. Based on?
    Well, Engers was the first to go under 50 minutes on a 25... that was on a road bike with no aerodynamics and on a non perfectly flat course... so that's nearly 49 km/h... I think on the boards he could have gone faster and beat Merckx' time.

    Merckx could have beaten his own time, but that's a different story
    left the forum March 2023
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,213
    I know the kit is different but if you take Dowsett's 25 mile PB and hour record it doesn't back your case that you ride faster on the track than in a TT.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,137
    Does the hour record have to be done on a single gear bike?
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,228
    RichN95. said:

    Does the hour record have to be done on a single gear bike?

    Yeah. Trackie rulez.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,069
    There was nothing stopping Alf Engers from attempting the hour record. He wouldn't have beaten Merckx.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,508

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,228

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
    He got tactically outdone pure and simple.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,228
    3 genuine leaders is the most effective way to win a race if you can manage the team properly and ride to the tactical strength you have.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,508

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
    He got tactically outdone pure and simple.
    Because he didn't have the legs in my opinion
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,228

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
    He got tactically outdone pure and simple.
    Because he didn't have the legs in my opinion
    Watch that Alp stage again - takes up the chase far too late as he has no teammates and is playing silly buggers with the (faster than Sastre) Schlecks.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,508

    Here's an unpopular opinion:

    Strong teams in GTs are overrated. It's nearly always the guy with the best legs that wins.

    2008 Tour de France says different.
    Evans was better?
    Even his own teammates were better than Sastre (the Schlecks)
    I'm not denying better riders have been denied by their own teams. 2012 tour is a possible example. Not sure it is true in 2008 though given their overall finishing positions.

    I don't think Evans was the better rider in 2008 - he misjudged how much he could take back in the TT and finished nearly a minute down.
    He got tactically outdone pure and simple.
    Because he didn't have the legs in my opinion
    Watch that Alp stage again - takes up the chase far too late as he has no teammates and is playing silly buggers with the (faster than Sastre) Schlecks.
    He either misjudged it or didn't have the legs, but if he did have the legs, there was nothing anyone could have done about it.