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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,208
    I didn't appreciate your subtle plan was to make socialist policies more palatable to the conservative party voter. Hats off to you.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,609
    Might be stating the obvious, but Corbyn hasn't been Labour leader for some time now.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,208
    Yes, that is stating the obvious.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    rjsterry said:

    Might be stating the obvious, but Corbyn hasn't been Labour leader for some time now.

    True, but he deserves some credit as he was the inspiration for this thread and he did keep Labour out of power for several years. His legacy might mean that carries on for several more.

    Credit where credit is due.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,609
    Credit for being an idiot? Mmmm, okay.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    rjsterry said:

    Credit for being an idiot? Mmmm, okay.

    The end effect deserves credit :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Jeremy.89
    Jeremy.89 Posts: 457
    Second most corona virus deaths in the Western world?

    That result?

  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,609
    edited July 2020
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Credit for being an idiot? Mmmm, okay.

    The end effect deserves credit :)
    Jews feeling driven out of a mainstream UK political party? Allowing the Conservative party to be taken over by a journalist and his pet blogger? No it f***ing does not. There is no credit to be had there.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Credit for being an idiot? Mmmm, okay.

    The end effect deserves credit :)
    Jews feeling driven out of a mainstream UK political party? Allowing the Conservative party to be taken over by a journalist and his pet blogger? No it f***ing does not. There is no credit to be had there.
    Read what I wrote above: "...he deserves some credit as he was the inspiration for this thread and he did keep Labour out of power for several years."

    The whole point of this thread in case you'd forgotten :)

    Now count to ten and breathe...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    edited July 2020
    Jeremy.89 said:

    Second most corona virus deaths in the Western world?

    That result?

    Someone rattled your cage? I wasn't having a pop at all 'Jeremies' :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,609
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Credit for being an idiot? Mmmm, okay.

    The end effect deserves credit :)
    Jews feeling driven out of a mainstream UK political party? Allowing the Conservative party to be taken over by a journalist and his pet blogger? No it f***ing does not. There is no credit to be had there.
    Read what I wrote above: "...he deserves some credit as he was the inspiration for this thread and he did keep Labour out of power for several years."

    The whole point of this thread in case you'd forgotten :)

    Now count to ten and breathe...
    Quite calm here. He did. Don't think it was worth the cost.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,450
    Jeremy.89 said:

    Second most corona virus deaths in the Western world?

    That result?

    Aren't both Brazil and the US in the western world? Not that bronze medal is something to celebrate.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,535
    Pross said:

    Jeremy.89 said:

    Second most corona virus deaths in the Western world?

    That result?

    Aren't both Brazil and the US in the western world? Not that bronze medal is something to celebrate.
    Brazil is EM innit.
    _
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,450
    rick_chasey said:

    Pross said:

    Jeremy.89 said:

    Second most corona virus deaths in the Western world?

    That result?

    Aren't both Brazil and the US in the western world? Not that bronze medal is something to celebrate.
    Brazil is EM innit.
    Yes. I guess it comes down to whether you use western as interchangeable with developed then.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,535
    edited July 2020
    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Pross said:

    Jeremy.89 said:

    Second most corona virus deaths in the Western world?

    That result?

    Aren't both Brazil and the US in the western world? Not that bronze medal is something to celebrate.
    Brazil is EM innit.
    Yes. I guess it comes down to whether you use western as interchangeable with developed then.
    Non-(former)communist developed...!
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  • Jeremy.89
    Jeremy.89 Posts: 457
    My mistake guys. I had completely forgotten how bad things were in Brazil.

  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 17,842
    Blimey, the Corbyn Clan doesn't give up easily, trying to make sure that the 'red line' under the Antisemitism affair is blurred. I wouldn't be surprised if individuals now get sued...
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    briantrumpet said:

    Blimey, the Corbyn Clan doesn't give up easily, trying to make sure that the 'red line' under the Antisemitism affair is blurred. I wouldn't be surprised if individuals now get sued...

    Might be behind a paywall, but this article suggests that Starmer should remove the whip from Corbyn over the anti-semitism issue:
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/07/22/jeremy-corbyn-deserves-lose-whip-would-plunge-labour-uncontrollable/

    Go on Keir, grow a pair...what's the worst that could happen? >:)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,609
    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Blimey, the Corbyn Clan doesn't give up easily, trying to make sure that the 'red line' under the Antisemitism affair is blurred. I wouldn't be surprised if individuals now get sued...

    Might be behind a paywall, but this article suggests that Starmer should remove the whip from Corbyn over the anti-semitism issue:
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/07/22/jeremy-corbyn-deserves-lose-whip-would-plunge-labour-uncontrollable/

    Go on Keir, grow a pair...what's the worst that could happen? >:)
    Can't read beyond the first couple of sentences but he should. The reaction to the settlement from the Corbynistas just shows that they are more interested in misplaced hero worship than actually dealing with antisemitism, let alone the wider issues that Labour aspires to address.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    edited July 2020
    Absolutely.

    While it would be no doubt amusing watching the handbag swinging, it would be a good way for Starmer to stamp his authority on the party. Albeit a tad risky, but then again that's not our problem.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 17,842
    Stevo_666 said:

    Absolutely.

    While it would be no doubt amusing watching the handbag swinging, it would be a good way for Starmer to stamp his authority on the party. Albeit a tad risky, but then again that's not our problem.


    Steady on - if you encourage Starmer to do sensible things, he might listen to you, and help make Labour electable - and after all the work you've done!!
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Absolutely.

    While it would be no doubt amusing watching the handbag swinging, it would be a good way for Starmer to stamp his authority on the party. Albeit a tad risky, but then again that's not our problem.


    Steady on - if you encourage Starmer to do sensible things, he might listen to you, and help make Labour electable - and after all the work you've done!!
    It's also a good route to civil war in the Labour Party. Don't want him to play it too safe...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    Tee hee. New Old Labour now faced with a choice between potential bankruptcy and expelling Corbyn from the party.
    ( OK, it's in the DM but its quite amusing).

    https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8561341/Labour-anti-Semitism-whistleblowers-drop-legal-action-expels-former-leader-Jeremy-Corbyn.html

    Save Jezza I say! >:)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    Just in case anyone has forgotten who the official opposition actually are these days, here's a pretty good article on the main problem facing Keir Starmer:

    https://spectator.co.uk/article/keir-starmer-s-big-problem-is-his-party

    The answer is, it's his party. Jezza's legacy lives on :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    The calibre of current politicians on all sides is absolutely woeful.

    Local Labour Parties are still in the throes of dilusional far left politics and the Tory cabinet seems to stand for absolutely nothing other then their own personal power grab.

    As a country we need a strong opposition and although Starmer is doing well he's fighting with his hands tied,like you said, because the rest of the party is bereft of any talent.

    All this while Johnson surrounds himself with talentless pyschophants
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 17,842
    Stevo_666 said:

    Just in case anyone has forgotten who the official opposition actually are these days, here's a pretty good article on the main problem facing Keir Starmer:

    https://spectator.co.uk/article/keir-starmer-s-big-problem-is-his-party

    The answer is, it's his party. Jezza's legacy lives on :smile:


    I don't think Johnson could forget yesterday.

    To take a leaf out of your book - looking on the bright side, they are in a better place than when that literal loser Corbyn was 'Leader' of the Opposition.

    And any party that doesn't have diversity of opinion is likely to come a cropper, I'd suggest: ideas need to be tested, and if you have a party that doesn't have 'critical supporters' will become complacent and intellectually lazy.

    Having said that, I'd be surprised if the more extreme left of the Labour Party doesn't try to keep its influence: how Starmer deals with that over time will be interesting to watch.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,415
    edited September 2020
    Looks like the powers that be have lost patience with the naughty Eco-hippies: too bloody right.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/05/extinction-rebellion-facing-organised-crime-curbs/

    Pity they don't try their tube train stunt in East London again so they can get another taste of public opinion :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    Stevo_666 said:

    Looks like the powers that be have lost patience with the naughty Eco-hippies: too bloody right.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/05/extinction-rebellion-facing-organised-crime-curbs/

    Pity they don't try their tube train stunt in East London again so they can get another taste of public opinion :)

    The correct thread for these extremists as they are not eco-hippies but extreme lefties.

    Did you find it surprising that the usual outraged lefties on here did not comment on those trying to shut down free speech?
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,609
    edited September 2020
    Daft and misjudged protest, but I think equating making the few who still buy a physical copy wait a few hours for their paper, with a meaningful attack on a free press is a teeny bit hysterical.

    Disappointing that this got more coverage than the bunch of neo-nazis and white nationalists who closed the port of Dover, but I guess the former was on the journos' doorstep.
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    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,208
    coopster_the_1st said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Looks like the powers that be have lost patience with the naughty Eco-hippies: too bloody right.
    https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/05/extinction-rebellion-facing-organised-crime-curbs/

    Pity they don't try their tube train stunt in East London again so they can get another taste of public opinion :)

    The correct thread for these extremists as they are not eco-hippies but extreme lefties.

    Did you find it surprising that the usual outraged lefties on here did not comment on those trying to shut down free speech?
    There were two daft protests this weekend didn't get attention on here. All it means is there's a bike race on.

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