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  • lettingthedaysgobylettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,664
    edited July 2020

    Why did you but a bike with a press fit BB? It wasn't compulsory.

    And objecting to marketing spraff? Do you only watch BBC or something? It kinda happens a lot.

    Marketing spaff is one thing, but simply being able to build something to the tolerance required to attach the components you're fitting to it is quite another.

    As for a press fit BB - again, if done correctly it is a superior way of doing things than threaded, in spite of what the ancient and knowedable cycling gods will tell you.
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 9,621
    Suspect I'm lucky then with a plastic bike and a pressfit bb that doesn't creak. Then again giant seem to be able to build decent bikes that dont get the hambini hairdryer treatment.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 7,220


    Nah. There are voids in all CF and it is just a case of how bad they are.

    If the tolerances required to make something work are uneconomic to mass produce, it's a bad idea.

    Given that the performance gains are immesurably small, if they exist at all, it's a bad idea.

    Except there are some manufactures who can manage to make them right, to the standard you'd expect for the price.

    Hambini's main point always seem to be calling out brands who make bogus engineering claims. For that he is to be applauded. From nonsense aero gains to materials science, the bike industry is full of utter cowcrap from top to bottom. It can, and should, be better for objects we're paying several thousand pounds for.
    Why does this command respect? Bears. Woods.

    Would you admire a nob getting shouty about outrageous L'Oréal adverts? Or someone objecting to Colgate adverts with miraculous self guided bubbles? What about ariel washing powder and it's psychic molecules that can tell the difference between white and red?

    What he is doing is laughably easy. Or his subscribers are laughably naive. Hard to say.

    Either way, do you think his aerospace engineer colleagues respect him? I doubt it.
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,895

    Oh, and the whole issue is that some of these standards are those defined by the very people making them. If you can't make a BB to the tolerances you yourself have specified, what's the bloody point?

    Even worse, Cervelo widened their tolerances to make them easier to hit... beyond those recommended by bearing manufacturers. I mean, that is pretty poor form.
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  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,895

    But he's just an engineer.

    Just an engineer?
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  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 7,220
    Ben6899 said:

    But he's just an engineer.

    Just an engineer?
    Yup. 10 a penny.

    Are you in awe or something?
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 9,621
    First Aspect. Good Engineers are not 10 a penny, however current generation of so called trained change part engineers are rubbish. Trust you dont fly on any planes.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • spatt77spatt77 Posts: 321

    Ummm, don't want to break this to any of you but if you watch his videos he will actually tell you that press fit is a better solution than threaded, and he's right - if only the bike manufactures actually made things properly.

    Press fit bearing are everywhere in all sorts of high tech/stress/critical applications. And they work perfectly, because the engineering is done well and within defined tolerances.

    The argument that a bike frame isn't as costly as an aeroplane so we should just accept this rubbish is, well... rubbish. If a brand is asking for several thousand pounds for a frame then we have every right to expect that it is made well, and within the tolerances defined by the bits we put in it.

    yeah this is correct! he actually states in one video that technically all BB`s are press fit!
  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 7,220
    spatt77 said:

    Ummm, don't want to break this to any of you but if you watch his videos he will actually tell you that press fit is a better solution than threaded, and he's right - if only the bike manufactures actually made things properly.

    Press fit bearing are everywhere in all sorts of high tech/stress/critical applications. And they work perfectly, because the engineering is done well and within defined tolerances.

    The argument that a bike frame isn't as costly as an aeroplane so we should just accept this rubbish is, well... rubbish. If a brand is asking for several thousand pounds for a frame then we have every right to expect that it is made well, and within the tolerances defined by the bits we put in it.

    yeah this is correct! he actually states in one video that technically all BB`s are press fit!
    Oh, because bearings are in the threaded shells. Wow. Insight. Only they dont creak. Why is that?
  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 7,220
    oxoman said:

    First Aspect. Good Engineers are not 10 a penny, however current generation of so called trained change part engineers are rubbish. Trust you dont fly on any planes.

    No, really, they are.

    Perhaps I'm just even smarter than Hambini thinks he is (I'm not, really, I'm rather average). I'm just not staggered as I'm supposed to be.

    Take his video on ceramic bearings, for example. The GCN guys loved it. Like wow, ceramic bearings (my toilet is ceramic) are supposed to be perpetual motion machines but aren't. O. m. g.

    But it was no more surprising than the observation that cheese is softer than a cheese knife.

    Am I missing something ?
  • pblakeney said:

    He is a complete and utter bar steward, as is the OP for drawing my attention to him.
    I now want to buy a Time frame. >:)

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  • joe2019joe2019 Posts: 1,199



    Am I missing something ?

    life, maybe.

  • Hambini in the videos is an act. It draws viewers which means he get paid. In real life I'm sure hes a normal.engineer. on house tube you get hambini. It's a stage name. What he talks about is not nonsense though. There is truth there and alot of shock jock showmanship which turns off many.
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  • dannbodgedannbodge Posts: 989
    I don't dislike him but I'm not a huge fan. I watch his videos though, not for the sweaty rants but the actual engineering insight (what he's actually good at). He's good at pointing out the censored manufacturing and QC, because if he didn't no-one would.

    He must know what he's doing considering he supplies bottom brackets to a handful of world tour teams
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,895

    Ben6899 said:

    But he's just an engineer.

    Just an engineer?
    Yup. 10 a penny.

    Are you in awe or something?
    No. I'm an engineer and I found your comment a little dismissive. That's all.
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  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 7,220

    Hambini in the videos is an act. It draws viewers which means he get paid. In real life I'm sure hes a normal.engineer. on house tube you get hambini. It's a stage name. What he talks about is not nonsense though. There is truth there and alot of shock jock showmanship which turns off many.

    I think there is genuinely something quite off about him, terms of the number of pretty bad social media run-ins he has with people.

    He does make some good points, though not terribly surprising from the snippets that have made it to other sites I read. And it is just a bit childish to be railing against marketing hype, because that is all around us all of the time.
  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 7,220
    Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    But he's just an engineer.

    Just an engineer?
    Yup. 10 a penny.

    Are you in awe or something?
    No. I'm an engineer and I found your comment a little dismissive. That's all.
    Well there are quite a lot of you... In my line of work there is a huge over supply of chemists for some reason. As a chemist I have just had to accept that I'm not special.

    The point I'm making is that as a reasonably technically and mechanically literate person, it not correct to worship the guy as a saviour of honesty and insight.

    Albeit I only saw the bearings video on GCN, tried to read his alleged debunking of aero-wheel claims and the other week a vid on carbon frames popped up on road.cc, but most of what he says seems to fall into either the "what did you expect?" or "so what?" category.

    Which itself is fine, without the aggression, accusations and wotnot.
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 9,621
    FA I still disagree with you regarding engineers. Yes there are lots around, but a lot of the more recently qualified ones are not capable of engineering their way out of a paper bag. This is both electrically and mechanically, we struggle getting engineers that can and will get their hands dirty or can overcome or adapt to keep things running, navy engineers being an exception.
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  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 7,220
    oxoman said:

    FA I still disagree with you regarding engineers. Yes there are lots around, but a lot of the more recently qualified ones are not capable of engineering their way out of a paper bag. This is both electrically and mechanically, we struggle getting engineers that can and will get their hands dirty or can overcome or adapt to keep things running, navy engineers being an exception.

    Ah, well, if we are talking about a working world full of snowflakes, then I agree with you.
  • Jeremy.89Jeremy.89 Posts: 457
    Would argue that the vast majority of the population wouldn't have a scooby on the difference between hardness and toughness and the relative properties of steel and ceramic. As a stress engineer I have found myself having to give quick recaps on plasticity to design engineers...

    So, someone like hambini explaining it in a relatively simple way is quite interesting. Ultimately that's an important part of any engineers job, albeit with a lot less swearing.

  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 7,220
    Mmm. "Public understanding of science" is a valuable thing, so we don't become like the Eloi, but he isn't what you'd call a poster child for it.
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 9,621
    My problem with both sides of elec / mech engineers is the current breed are incapable of coping with anything older than a few years or replacing anything that's not the same as fitted.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • ibr17xviiibr17xvii Posts: 799
    FWIW I find him mildly irritating, pretty offensive & quite funny all in equal measure.

    I have to say I did enjoy his recent video about the Trek frame which a guy had sent him.

    The faults he pointed out on the BB area were quite horrendous really.
  • 50x1150x11 Posts: 325
    The Durain rider of bottom brackets. An odious personality, and clearly a bully.

    Obviously the only products that work correctly just happen to be the ones he makes money from.

    I can easily imagine him sitting alone at work having alienated everyone with his personality. Hope his channel dies off soon.
  • wongataawongataa Posts: 940
    50x11 said:

    The Durain rider of bottom brackets. An odious personality, and clearly a bully.

    Quite possibly.
    50x11 said:


    Obviously the only products that work correctly just happen to be the ones he makes money from.

    Except the products he has called out as being good and properly made. There has been a few. He hasn't said every bike is poorly manufactured in the BB area.

  • Jeremy.89Jeremy.89 Posts: 457
    Meh, I can imagine that a lot of the people he works with love it, because a lot of engineers are childish, and often have slightly, shall we say, out of date, views.


  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,895

    Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    But he's just an engineer.

    Just an engineer?
    Yup. 10 a penny.

    Are you in awe or something?
    No. I'm an engineer and I found your comment a little dismissive. That's all.
    Well there are quite a lot of you... In my line of work there is a huge over supply of chemists for some reason. As a chemist I have just had to accept that I'm not special.

    The point I'm making is that as a reasonably technically and mechanically literate person, it not correct to worship the guy as a saviour of honesty and insight.

    Albeit I only saw the bearings video on GCN, tried to read his alleged debunking of aero-wheel claims and the other week a vid on carbon frames popped up on road.cc, but most of what he says seems to fall into either the "what did you expect?" or "so what?" category.

    Which itself is fine, without the aggression, accusations and wotnot.
    Yeh the title is overused - always ask an "engineer" their credentials. Anyway...

    I totally agree it's off to worship him for honesty and insight, but I'll defer to his aerodynamics knowledge. The rest, well I could figure out myself if I had the time, supplies of frames and a mate with a CAT scanner or whatever tech they use to NDT the frames.

    All that said, I think it's good that someone is out there calling out the bullshit.
    Ben

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  • ibr17xvii said:

    FWIW I find him mildly irritating, pretty offensive & quite funny all in equal measure.

    This. Although there's no way I'd ever want to spend too much time around him.....in person or in YouTube world.

  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 7,235
    I haven't watched any of his videos for ages, I suspect he's more likeable in real life than on his videos, I just think he's a bit too offensive at times given it's a public platform. If he edited his stuff down a bit I'd probably watch more.
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