BREXIT 2020 - Bye Bye Brussels. It's Been a Blast.🇬🇧

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  • Mad_Malx wrote:
    Boris will spin TM's WA, with modified backstop, as having gained massive concessions.
    Like the massive concessions Cameron got before brexit.

    Well, he got a "get out of further integration, free" card. Which coupled with existing potential mechanisms to stop benefit claims from recent migrants, was the biggest issue of leavers. Right? Right? Right?
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 44,547 Lives Here
    TheBigBean wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    NICK TIMOTHY GETS A TITLE.



    F*CK OFF.

    That is hilarious. :lol:

    Less funny is convicted criminal Boycott getting a gong.

    It was a French conviction so will no longer count after Brexit. One of the main reasons for leaving was so we could have our own laws remember.
    Were you unfortunate to catch him bullsh*ting his way through the interview this morning? He claimed that French law presumed guilt among other nonsense.

    For a bit of balance.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... -case.html
    Here’s the original bbc report, complete with battered face photo.
    During the trial, the court was told that Boycott pinned Miss Moore down and punched her 20 times in the face before checking out and leaving her to pay the bill.

    "Boycott denied the allegations, saying 45-year-old Miss Moore had slipped after flying into a rage when he refused to marry her"..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/211569.stm
    I mean, come on.
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 5,544
    ^ Yeah well, gammon do wot gammon do, na'ar mean?
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 8,501
    TheBigBean wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    NICK TIMOTHY GETS A TITLE.



    F*CK OFF.

    That is hilarious. :lol:

    Less funny is convicted criminal Boycott getting a gong.

    It was a French conviction so will no longer count after Brexit. One of the main reasons for leaving was so we could have our own laws remember.
    Were you unfortunate to catch him bullsh*ting his way through the interview this morning? He claimed that French law presumed guilt among other nonsense.

    For a bit of balance.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... -case.html
    Here’s the original bbc report, complete with battered face photo.
    During the trial, the court was told that Boycott pinned Miss Moore down and punched her 20 times in the face before checking out and leaving her to pay the bill.

    "Boycott denied the allegations, saying 45-year-old Miss Moore had slipped after flying into a rage when he refused to marry her"..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/211569.stm
    I mean, come on.

    There is a photo in the article I posted along with an explanation consistent with Boycott's statement.
  • I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D
  • Lagrange wrote:
    I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D

    I am glad it is not just me - I have no idea what Boycott has to do with Brexit
  • Lagrange wrote:
    I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D

    I am glad it is not just me - I have no idea what Boycott has to do with Brexit
    He's Gammon. Brexit is the Gammon Revolution.
  • knedlickyknedlicky Posts: 3,097
    Lagrange wrote:
    I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D

    I am glad it is not just me - I have no idea what Boycott has to do with Brexit
    Not a long while back, Boycott said something like Remainers were like spoiled children and they deserved a smack.
    Old school !
  • Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 44,547 Lives Here
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
  • robert88robert88 Posts: 2,706
    Lagrange wrote:
    I don't understand a word of the last page. But I don't really give a toss about brexit to be honest. Whatever makes people happy. :D

    I am glad it is not just me - I have no idea what Boycott has to do with Brexit

    Brexit is clearly not Cricket and like Boycott, Jacob Rees Mogg is a Cad, a Bounder and should be horse whipped on the steps of Parliament.
  • Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,807
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.
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  • TheBigBean wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    NICK TIMOTHY GETS A TITLE.



    F*CK OFF.

    That is hilarious. :lol:

    Less funny is convicted criminal Boycott getting a gong.

    It was a French conviction so will no longer count after Brexit. One of the main reasons for leaving was so we could have our own laws remember.
    Were you unfortunate to catch him bullsh*ting his way through the interview this morning? He claimed that French law presumed guilt among other nonsense.

    For a bit of balance.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... -case.html

    Boycott, a columnist for Telegraph Sport, said: ...
  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 15,955
    rjsterry wrote:
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.

    Oh dear. Not a good week for Bojo. But then no week is a good week for Bojo.

    PS tee hee......
    Faster than a tent.......
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 44,547 Lives Here
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.

    By law BoJo needs to genuinely ask for an extension if he can't get a deal past parliament. Given his promises about leaving come what may on 31st October, I can't see why the opposition would give him the opportunity to get that victory.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 44,547 Lives Here
    rjsterry wrote:
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.

    Goes to supreme court, presumably.
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,807
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.

    By law BoJo needs to genuinely ask for an extension if he can't get a deal past parliament. Given his promises about leaving come what may on 31st October, I can't see why the opposition would give him the opportunity to get that victory.

    I think forcing an extension purely to hurt Johnson would be a pyrrhic victory for Labour.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 44,547 Lives Here
    rjsterry wrote:
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.

    By law BoJo needs to genuinely ask for an extension if he can't get a deal past parliament. Given his promises about leaving come what may on 31st October, I can't see why the opposition would give him the opportunity to get that victory.

    I think forcing an extension purely to hurt Johnson would be a pyrrhic victory for Labour.

    Why, do you think they would be slammed in the polls harder than they have been already?
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 44,547 Lives Here
    rjsterry wrote:
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.

    Goes to supreme court, presumably.

    From FT
    https://www.ft.com/content/43a146f0-149 ... fa28e809e9
    David Allen Green, a contributor to the Financial Times who specialises in law, says he has not seen such a court decision in 30 years of "constitutional geekery" and working on legal issues.

    He points out that Scottish law is different to the law of England and Wales, which includes a different approach to constitutional law matters.

    A matter that is unconstitutional can also be unlawful in Scotland, even if held to be lawful by the High Court, he says on Twitter. He puts the chances of the action succeeding in London as “zero”.
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,807
    rjsterry wrote:
    Or a punch in the face. He had form on that apparently.

    Could the WA get through this time. Is reality finally starting to bite. Is Bojo a more humble now his wings are clipped.

    ERG will still vote against it and so will labour and likely Lib Dem’s.

    Can’t see how it passes
    The threat of no deal isn't to get the EU on board, it's to get enough waiverers at home to sign up. I think they will go with NI only backstop subject NI only referendum. They will jettison the DUP if they can get support elsewhere.

    By law BoJo needs to genuinely ask for an extension if he can't get a deal past parliament. Given his promises about leaving come what may on 31st October, I can't see why the opposition would give him the opportunity to get that victory.

    I think forcing an extension purely to hurt Johnson would be a pyrrhic victory for Labour.

    Why, do you think they would be slammed in the polls harder than they have been already?

    I was thinking slightly more long term. It's all very well defeating Johnson but they need to be *for* something.
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  • rjsterry wrote:
    I was thinking slightly more long term. It's all very well defeating Johnson but they need to be *for* something.

    They need to be able to explain succinctly why they are for a deal but not this deal. If they are.
    and then the next thing you know
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 10,047
    rjsterry wrote:
    Prorogation ruled unlawful in Scottish court.

    Goes to supreme court, presumably.

    From FT
    https://www.ft.com/content/43a146f0-149 ... fa28e809e9
    David Allen Green, a contributor to the Financial Times who specialises in law, says he has not seen such a court decision in 30 years of "constitutional geekery" and working on legal issues.

    He points out that Scottish law is different to the law of England and Wales, which includes a different approach to constitutional law matters.

    A matter that is unconstitutional can also be unlawful in Scotland, even if held to be lawful by the High Court, he says on Twitter. He puts the chances of the action succeeding in London as “zero”.
    No doubt the SNP will be happy either way.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 44,547 Lives Here
    Curious that Rees-Mogg, Banks, Barclay Bros, Leadsom's husband and brother in law were all named in the paradise papers.

    EU has that kind of behaviour firmly in their sights, naturally. UK has a patchy record when it comes to transparency in tax havens.
  • Curious that Rees-Mogg, Banks, Barclay Bros, Leadsom's husband and brother in law were all named in the paradise papers.

    EU has that kind of behaviour firmly in their sights, naturally. UK has a patchy record when it comes to transparency in tax havens.

    Indeed.
    You can fool some of the people all of the time. Concentrate on those people.
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,807
    People's PMQs no. 2.

    Forensic holding to account it was not.
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 37,698
    Curious that Rees-Mogg, Banks, Barclay Bros, Leadsom's husband and brother in law were all named in the paradise papers.

    EU has that kind of behaviour firmly in their sights, naturally. UK has a patchy record when it comes to transparency in tax havens.
    In what way?

    We are signed up to all the EU initiatives on that front currently and have quite a few bits and pieces in our domestic legislation also.
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  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,807
    “Neither Nigel Farage nor Arron Banks are fit and proper persons and they should never be allowed anywhere near government.”

    So that's a no to the election pact.
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  • David Allen Green
    @davidallengreen
    ·
    5m
    Today, in summary

    For the first time a court - and not just any court, but the highest court of one of the constituent nations of the United Kingdom - ruled that the Prime Minister had knowingly misled the Sovereign

    If
    @UKSupremeCourt
    concurs, the Prime Minister must resign
    "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? IS THIS NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE?"
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 15,807
    David Allen Green
    @davidallengreen
    ·
    5m
    Today, in summary

    For the first time a court - and not just any court, but the highest court of one of the constituent nations of the United Kingdom - ruled that the Prime Minister had knowingly misled the Sovereign

    If
    @UKSupremeCourt
    concurs, the Prime Minister must resign
    Yes, it's kind of a big deal. Or at least it should be.
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