Is my bike too small?

Looks spot on for size. As you get used to it and riding more your strength and fitness will build. You are very upright in that photo so you could build up to getting a little lower at the front end to make yourself more efficient. You could flip that stem and eventually take out spacers below the stem to get the front lower. You want to remain comfortable though and must expect a few niggles until you adapt to each change you make.

As a rough guide, keep the torso to upper arm angle at 90 degrees, which it looks like you almost have there - perhaps slightly less if actually measured? And a slight bend in the elbows will allow for a bit of shock absorption. Wrists want to remain straight (your right one is in the photo) when holding the hoods, but I see your left hand is not actually holding the hoods, rather an inch or so back from the hoods - not sure if that is because you are balancing against the van thus cocking your elbow out, or is that is where it feels comfortable. With the levers adjusted exactly the same on the bar you would ideally have your hands right in the crook of the hoods, keeping a straight wrist (which is adjusted by moving the levers around the bar).

Knee bend at the bottom of the pedal stroke looks ok, but can’t tell regarding cleat/ pedal/ foot position, or saddle fore and aft from that photo alone. Remember that a bike fit starts at the shoe/ cleat, then the saddle fore and aft/ up and down to get the correct knee bend, then you work forwards to the bars/ stem/ levers for height and reach.

Enjoy.

PP

As said above flip the stem and maybe take out a spacer and replace it above the stem. Just remember to tighten the top cap before you tighten the stem bolts. And as you say go back to the 90mm stem.

First bike was a defy which is now the Contend. 5 foot 9 and I got a medium so I would say you should be fine on a small.

By the look of it your saddle is a tad low ?

I think you knee should be straighter.

The seat height on my bike is if you have you foot like your photo at 6 oclock and you stand on the pedals you should have about half inch gap from you saddle to your bum.
I believe you should sit back on the saddle not sit up on the the saddle or sit down on the saddle?
This is just about right for me?

Good luck in getting it right because then its right you will have lots of fun.

It's generally said that if you're between sizes then go for the smaller frame. You can make a small frame fit a bigger rider, but never the reverse.

FWIW I'm 5'6" and I'd choose a small. I'd say it looks about right, saddle height too. If you had a bit more bend in your arms you'd be less upright. If you find you want to get a flatter back you can experiment with a longer stem and maybe nudge the saddle back a bit.

But if as you say the Medium felt too stretched out then I think you're probably close to having it set up optimally already

philthy3 wrote:

Pilot Pete wrote:

skooter wrote:

By the look of it your saddle is a tad low ?

You reckon? What sort of knee bend angle (if any) do you think he should have at the bottom of the pedal stroke?

PP

As a rough guide, with your pedal at the bottom of the stroke, place your heel on the pedal. You should have only a very slight angle in the knee, so slight you'd struggle to see it. The position you're after is to give you as much room at the top of the stroke to allow you to get on the power without struggling for room coming over the top of the pedal stroke.

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Indeed, which will equate to about 30 degrees knee bend at the bottom of the stroke with your foot clipped in with the heel in its natural position, I.e. not up high or down low. Looking at the picture of the OP I’d assess that to be roughly 30 degrees, so not a million miles off. It certainly doesn’t look too low a saddle height to me as if he raises it he will barely have any knee bend (unless we are talking just a few mm, which would be impossible to assess from a picture on a forum alone). If he unclips and puts his heel on the pedal I reckon his leg will be just about straight. Certainly impossible to ascertain that his saddle is too low from that picture alone in my opinion.

PP

My BB to saddle height is 72cm, determined by the (very good) bike shop I bought my first bike from, and I've been setting bikes up like that ever since. I can see from your photo that you're sensibly proportioned, while I have more legs than torso, so your 69.5cm sounds right.

Bike geometry does make a difference. My first bike (Racelight Tk) had a low stack / longer reach. They initially thought I'd need a 54, but that was too much of a stretch. I ended up with a 51 but with spacers and a flipped stem.
Second bike (CR1) has a taller front end / shorter top tube, so I have the 54 with no spacers and a normal stem.

It is amazing what a difference a few mm can make.