May has gone - ding dong the utter, utter, total failure of a prime minister is gone
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Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.0 -
SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
rjsterry wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.0 -
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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Stevo 666 wrote:
i've actually based my whole career on Klinger from M*A*S*H but i can definitly take some recruiting tips from that snippet
#jointhearmy,theysaid
#traveltheworld,theysaidPostby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascistsPostby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
bompington wrote:rjsterry wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
i'll send an MF down to Edwyns - he keeps a few in the cupboard for emergency gelato and canneloni making (Italians that is, not MFs. They couldn't gelato their way out of a paper bag).
I'll post any pictures the MF returns with. Well, I'll post up links that don't work and ask Veronese to sort them out
#bloodyItaliansandtheirgoodlooksPostby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
rjsterry wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
I asked the MFs and they said they had an inkling as to what a fascist is. they showed me a picture. it looked exactly the same as a Tory. You can see it in their eyes if you look hard enough.
#eyesofacrow
#toryfascist
#maggiethatchermilksnatcherPostby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
ah - ye olde "institutional learning technique"?
#beatitintothemPostby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
and dispel a few myths.0 -
orraloon wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
and dispel a few myths.
We have have learnt well from our esteemed European partners."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:orraloon wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
and dispel a few myths.
We have have learnt well from our esteemed European partners.
The Tory party is far too incompetent and self-serving to be a proper fascist organisation. Instead they are a collection of individual fascists who couldn't even organise a night of the long knives in a butchers shop.0 -
8%.
8% of the vote under May.
Lost a majority and then took the Tories to 8% in a nationwide election.0 -
I'm not sure they can recover from this whole farce, the divisions are too big to be sorted out by a new leader especially as that leader is likely to lead them further to the right.0
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Robert88 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:orraloon wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
and dispel a few myths.
We have have learnt well from our esteemed European partners.
The Tory party is far too incompetent and self-serving to be a proper fascist organisation. Instead they are a collection of individual fascists who couldn't even organise a night of the long knives in a butchers shop.
Claiming that the Tories are fascist is just lazy leftiebollox or ignorance."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:Robert88 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:orraloon wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
and dispel a few myths.
We have have learnt well from our esteemed European partners.
The Tory party is far too incompetent and self-serving to be a proper fascist organisation. Instead they are a collection of individual fascists who couldn't even organise a night of the long knives in a butchers shop.
Claiming that the Tories are fascist is just lazy leftiebollox or ignorance.
Oops, did I just sink your battleship. Quel dommage..0 -
Robert88 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Robert88 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:orraloon wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
and dispel a few myths.
We have have learnt well from our esteemed European partners.
The Tory party is far too incompetent and self-serving to be a proper fascist organisation. Instead they are a collection of individual fascists who couldn't even organise a night of the long knives in a butchers shop.
Claiming that the Tories are fascist is just lazy leftiebollox or ignorance.
Oops, did I just sink your battleship. Quel dommage.."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Stevo 666 wrote:Robert88 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Robert88 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:orraloon wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
and dispel a few myths.
We have have learnt well from our esteemed European partners.
The Tory party is far too incompetent and self-serving to be a proper fascist organisation. Instead they are a collection of individual fascists who couldn't even organise a night of the long knives in a butchers shop.
Claiming that the Tories are fascist is just lazy leftiebollox or ignorance.
Oops, did I just sink your battleship. Quel dommage..
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Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
I have voted Tory since those Labour twats chose to introduce tuition fees and saddle intelligent engineers such as myself with debt. I was down the local sailing club teaching kids how to sail at the weekend. Didn't even get paid. I have just given you one example of a historically Tory voter doing something for the greater good of society and a whole party doing something that was definitely bad for society. But then this is the internet where the use of the word "all" is routinely used incorrectly.0 -
This is all before we look up the definition of facism.0
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john80 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
I have voted Tory since those Labour twats chose to introduce tuition fees and saddle intelligent engineers such as myself with debt. I was down the local sailing club teaching kids how to sail at the weekend. Didn't even get paid. I have just given you one example of a historically Tory voter doing something for the greater good of society and a whole party doing something that was definitely bad for society. But then this is the internet where the use of the word "all" is routinely used incorrectly.
So the consequence of your anger regarding the act of increasing the debt on a broadly/commonly privileged sector of society is to shift from left wing to right wing?
This summarises why politics is so difficult now. It's Turkeys voting for Christmas. Once you identify yourself as someone who will vote against your own best interests (feel free to analogise to Brexit) you are sending a message to those in power that there is absolutely no point in them considering your needs; even if they do give you what you want you'll still vote against them. There should be a special category in the Darwin awards for this.Faster than a tent.......0 -
Rolf F wrote:john80 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
I have voted Tory since those Labour twats chose to introduce tuition fees and saddle intelligent engineers such as myself with debt. I was down the local sailing club teaching kids how to sail at the weekend. Didn't even get paid. I have just given you one example of a historically Tory voter doing something for the greater good of society and a whole party doing something that was definitely bad for society. But then this is the internet where the use of the word "all" is routinely used incorrectly.
So the consequence of your anger regarding the act of increasing the debt on a broadly/commonly privileged sector of society is to shift from left wing to right wing?
This summarises why politics is so difficult now. It's Turkeys voting for Christmas. Once you identify yourself as someone who will vote against your own best interests (feel free to analogise to Brexit) you are sending a message to those in power that there is absolutely no point in them considering your needs; even if they do give you what you want you'll still vote against them. There should be a special category in the Darwin awards for this.
Yeah I am sure that first generation graduate from a modest background considers the act of getting educated and working hard makes him from a privileged sector of society. Universal debt regardless of background really assisted those not from families where the debt could just be paid off by the parents and was irrelevant.
We have had 50 years of removing industry from the economy as if increasing productivity and providing well paid jobs was somehow a bad idea. It was a much better idea to buy in all these services for some bizarre reasoning.0 -
john80 wrote:Rolf F wrote:john80 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
I have voted Tory since those Labour twats chose to introduce tuition fees and saddle intelligent engineers such as myself with debt. I was down the local sailing club teaching kids how to sail at the weekend. Didn't even get paid. I have just given you one example of a historically Tory voter doing something for the greater good of society and a whole party doing something that was definitely bad for society. But then this is the internet where the use of the word "all" is routinely used incorrectly.
So the consequence of your anger regarding the act of increasing the debt on a broadly/commonly privileged sector of society is to shift from left wing to right wing?
This summarises why politics is so difficult now. It's Turkeys voting for Christmas. Once you identify yourself as someone who will vote against your own best interests (feel free to analogise to Brexit) you are sending a message to those in power that there is absolutely no point in them considering your needs; even if they do give you what you want you'll still vote against them. There should be a special category in the Darwin awards for this.
Yeah I am sure that first generation graduate from a modest background considers the act of getting educated and working hard makes him from a privileged sector of society. Universal debt regardless of background really assisted those not from families where the debt could just be paid off by the parents and was irrelevant.
We have had 50 years of removing industry from the economy as if increasing productivity and providing well paid jobs was somehow a bad idea. It was a much better idea to buy in all these services for some bizarre reasoning.
Have you thought this through?0 -
john80 wrote:Rolf F wrote:john80 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
I have voted Tory since those Labour twats chose to introduce tuition fees and saddle intelligent engineers such as myself with debt. I was down the local sailing club teaching kids how to sail at the weekend. Didn't even get paid. I have just given you one example of a historically Tory voter doing something for the greater good of society and a whole party doing something that was definitely bad for society. But then this is the internet where the use of the word "all" is routinely used incorrectly.
So the consequence of your anger regarding the act of increasing the debt on a broadly/commonly privileged sector of society is to shift from left wing to right wing?
This summarises why politics is so difficult now. It's Turkeys voting for Christmas. Once you identify yourself as someone who will vote against your own best interests (feel free to analogise to Brexit) you are sending a message to those in power that there is absolutely no point in them considering your needs; even if they do give you what you want you'll still vote against them. There should be a special category in the Darwin awards for this.
Yeah I am sure that first generation graduate from a modest background considers the act of getting educated and working hard makes him from a privileged sector of society. Universal debt regardless of background really assisted those not from families where the debt could just be paid off by the parents and was irrelevant.
We have had 50 years of removing industry from the economy as if increasing productivity and providing well paid jobs was somehow a bad idea. It was a much better idea to buy in all these services for some bizarre reasoning.
If as an engineering graduate you can make a decent living then that does put you at an advantage. If for whatever reason that degree doesn't lead to a higher income then you don't have to repay the debt. Point is, free university places were a massive give away to a majority of students, who were from that privileged sector of society where it was just expected.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
john80 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
I have voted Tory since those Labour twats chose to introduce tuition fees and saddle intelligent engineers such as myself with debt. I was down the local sailing club teaching kids how to sail at the weekend. Didn't even get paid. I have just given you one example of a historically Tory voter doing something for the greater good of society and a whole party doing something that was definitely bad for society. But then this is the internet where the use of the word "all" is routinely used incorrectly.
What about the Tory twats who tripled the fees?You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
It’s a bit like voters who punished labour for their lack of banking regulation by voting Tory, who the previous 10 years lambasted labour for their heavy handed, profit stifling, regulation.0
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rjsterry wrote:john80 wrote:Rolf F wrote:john80 wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:SurferCyclist wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Pross wrote:whoever wins is unlikely to survive long and it will hopefully kill their career permanently.
A last hoorah for a Henry?
#fascistTories
Saying Tories are facists is like saying Labour supporters are Marxist. Some are, not all.
nope. they all are. not one iota of care for the greater good in any of their bodies
#fascists
I have voted Tory since those Labour twats chose to introduce tuition fees and saddle intelligent engineers such as myself with debt. I was down the local sailing club teaching kids how to sail at the weekend. Didn't even get paid. I have just given you one example of a historically Tory voter doing something for the greater good of society and a whole party doing something that was definitely bad for society. But then this is the internet where the use of the word "all" is routinely used incorrectly.
So the consequence of your anger regarding the act of increasing the debt on a broadly/commonly privileged sector of society is to shift from left wing to right wing?
This summarises why politics is so difficult now. It's Turkeys voting for Christmas. Once you identify yourself as someone who will vote against your own best interests (feel free to analogise to Brexit) you are sending a message to those in power that there is absolutely no point in them considering your needs; even if they do give you what you want you'll still vote against them. There should be a special category in the Darwin awards for this.
Yeah I am sure that first generation graduate from a modest background considers the act of getting educated and working hard makes him from a privileged sector of society. Universal debt regardless of background really assisted those not from families where the debt could just be paid off by the parents and was irrelevant.
We have had 50 years of removing industry from the economy as if increasing productivity and providing well paid jobs was somehow a bad idea. It was a much better idea to buy in all these services for some bizarre reasoning.
If as an engineering graduate you can make a decent living then that does put you at an advantage. If for whatever reason that degree doesn't lead to a higher income then you don't have to repay the debt. Point is, free university places were a massive give away to a majority of students, who were from that privileged sector of society where it was just expected.
One of the reasons Britain lost its ascendancy in the late years of the 19th century and ever after was the way in which its rivals educated and trained their populations. Conservative Britain was was wary of allowing the lower orders an education lest it led to discontent. They certainly had a point as in Germany there had been a revolt in 1848 which had to be crushed. Many educated Germans emigrated, some to the UK where they were very successful, starting businesses that thrived and brought prosperity. A great number of those and other businesses lost their investment in the 60s, 70s and 80s. They were absorbed by foreign buyers or asset stripped. The rise of banking and retail followed.
Today the UK is woefully short of significantly large companies that are at the leading edge of modern science and technology. We are a nation of relatively poorly educated consumers and borrowers, very ill-equipped to make our way in a post-Brexit role.0 -
So we have some advocates of the increase in university places as some sort of benefit to the less well off. Some saying it's a give away to the more well off. The point that you don't have to pay it back if you don't earn as much.
Remember grants for poorer but talented students. Seems like maybe the original system was not so bad for the UK as I am not seeing the competitive advantage we have gained from the massive growth in university education. Thankfully I am not a graduate of the 9k per year generation paying additional tax on my higher rate tax to fund the growth in the university sector.0