LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!

Robert88Robert88 Posts: 2,722
edited 7 October in The cake stop
It's a bit late now, but..
rjsterry wrote:
Do we all need to become Conservative party members so that we can make sure he[Boris Johnson] doesn't get in?

Yes, the sooner the better because you have to be a member 3 months before the voting ends.

It's £2.09 a month so it could cost under a tenner. :wink:
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    What a great idea :)

    But you don't all need to rush to join me quite yet.
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  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 5,261
    This Tory administration stumbles from one farce to another. They really don't have a clue where they are going, now May has fled the country to waste yet more time pursuing some different form of words when whatever she comes back with will still be a car crash of a deal which has no realistic chance of getting through the house anyway. How anyone can support this I don't know, if Corbyn isn't your thing well there are alternatives but voting Tory now for anyone that actually cares about our nation amounts to self harm.
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  • The trouble is who can you vote for if the prospect of Corbyn isn't your thing?

    There's no credible ideas about Brexit from any politician. I don't think there's any solution to Brexit that will get through other than a vote on not going out on a no deal basis. That's the only resolution that could get through. Although the opportunism of labour right now I worry such a voting option might just tempt them to try and unseat the tories by voting for hard / no deal Brexit.

    Brexit was always going to be a Charlie Foxtrot.
  • john80john80 Posts: 629
    Are we all glad that we helped write article 50 to make it almost impossible for any member to leave under anything other than hard Brexit. Stellar bit of foresight from Lord Kerr of Kinlockard to make it as hard as possible for the primary leave nation in 2003. Anyone would think he might have had a plan to stop us all along.
  • Rolf FRolf F Posts: 16,126
    john80 wrote:
    Are we all glad that we helped write article 50 to make it almost impossible for any member to leave under anything other than hard Brexit. Stellar bit of foresight from Lord Kerr of Kinlockard to make it as hard as possible for the primary leave nation in 2003. Anyone would think he might have had a plan to stop us all along.

    I think he didn't give it that much thought. He knew that nobody would be as imbecilic as to actually invoke it so why waste time on making it functional?
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  • surrey_commutersurrey_commuter Posts: 8,440
    Just dusting this off as we have to serve 3 months before we can vote. As a resident of Epsom I get to meet Chris “the legend” Grayling and ask councillors why they borrowed £300,000,000 to gamble on commercial property.
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 5,299
    The revolution starts...somewhere. My "representative" is Airhead Leadsom. How many like mindeds would it take to engineer a putsch? Hmmm, to be continued. See what you started Toryboy666?
  • surrey_commutersurrey_commuter Posts: 8,440
    orraloon wrote:
    The revolution starts...somewhere. My "representative" is Airhead Leadsom. How many like mindeds would it take to engineer a putsch? Hmmm, to be continued. See what you started Toryboy666?

    Makes far more sense than voting in a General Election.

    Maybe as low as 50,000 new entrants could be enough a moderate to be our new PM
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    orraloon wrote:
    The revolution starts...somewhere. My "representative" is Airhead Leadsom. How many like mindeds would it take to engineer a putsch? Hmmm, to be continued. See what you started Toryboy666?
    As mentioned above, pay your £25 and join up. A few hundred thousand leftie suckers, (sorry, new members) will help fund a good GE campaign. At least the Tories have pitched it at a respectable price rather than the £3 I paid to vote Jezza in. I suppose Labour had to make it vaguely affordable for their core supporters :)

    So will you be joining up Looney, or are you too tight to pay the necessary to help decide the future of our country? :wink:
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  • verylonglegsverylonglegs Posts: 3,400
    john80 wrote:
    Are we all glad that we helped write article 50 to make it almost impossible for any member to leave under anything other than hard Brexit. Stellar bit of foresight from Lord Kerr of Kinlockard to make it as hard as possible for the primary leave nation in 2003. Anyone would think he might have had a plan to stop us all along.

    You seem fixated on this, have you not considered the flip side...any treaty or agreement that can be ducked out of fairly easily doesn't have any real value. Besides as has been pointed out before, it was written in the expectation that they wouldn't ever find anyone dumb enough to try it out...and then UKIP and it's supporters crawled out of the sewers.
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 6,583
    I wouldn't trust Corbyn anymore than I'd trust a second tyre full of nails. Not saying I trust certain Tory,s anymore either. My local ones bridgen and he's as welcome as something brown on my shoe on a good day. I still blame blair for the breakdown in social values, he told us not to chastise our kids.
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  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 5,299
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    orraloon wrote:
    The revolution starts...somewhere. My "representative" is Airhead Leadsom. How many like mindeds would it take to engineer a putsch? Hmmm, to be continued. See what you started Toryboy666?
    As mentioned above, pay your £25 and join up. A few hundred thousand leftie suckers, (sorry, new members) will help fund a good GE campaign. At least the Tories have pitched it at a respectable price rather than the £3 I paid to vote Jezza in. I suppose Labour had to make it vaguely affordable for their core supporters :)

    So will you be joining up Looney, or are you too tight to pay the necessary to help decide the future of our country? :wink:
    I'm in comrade, the revolution has started.
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    orraloon wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    orraloon wrote:
    The revolution starts...somewhere. My "representative" is Airhead Leadsom. How many like mindeds would it take to engineer a putsch? Hmmm, to be continued. See what you started Toryboy666?
    As mentioned above, pay your £25 and join up. A few hundred thousand leftie suckers, (sorry, new members) will help fund a good GE campaign. At least the Tories have pitched it at a respectable price rather than the £3 I paid to vote Jezza in. I suppose Labour had to make it vaguely affordable for their core supporters :)

    So will you be joining up Looney, or are you too tight to pay the necessary to help decide the future of our country? :wink:
    I'm in comrade, the revolution has started.
    Good stuff. Your country needs you :)

    Roll up folks...
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  • Jez monJez mon Posts: 3,809
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-plan

    By the looks of it, the members would choose a hard brexiter if they could
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    Jez mon wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/04/most-tory-members-would-choose-no-deal-over-may-brexit-plan

    By the looks of it, the members would choose a hard brexiter if they could
    So you need to follow Orraloon's example and join up to swing the vote - you probably only need another 50,000 members which is less than the number that joined Labour to vote Jezza in. As mentioned above, surely £25 is a small price to pay in this situation?
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,827 Lives Here
    You supporting these [email protected] idiots, having given money and votes to Corbyn is not a great look Stevo.
  • Jez monJez mon Posts: 3,809
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Jez mon wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/04/most-tory-members-would-choose-no-deal-over-may-brexit-plan

    By the looks of it, the members would choose a hard brexiter if they could
    So you need to follow Orraloon's example and join up to swing the vote - you probably only need another 50,000 members which is less than the number that joined Labour to vote Jezza in. As mentioned above, surely £25 is a small price to pay in this situation?

    It's interesting to note that I've seen headlines suggesting tory voters broadly support the deal...

    Interesting to note the gap between the ordinary person who votes every election and the type of person who joins a party.
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    Jez mon wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Jez mon wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/04/most-tory-members-would-choose-no-deal-over-may-brexit-plan

    By the looks of it, the members would choose a hard brexiter if they could
    So you need to follow Orraloon's example and join up to swing the vote - you probably only need another 50,000 members which is less than the number that joined Labour to vote Jezza in. As mentioned above, surely £25 is a small price to pay in this situation?

    It's interesting to note that I've seen headlines suggesting tory voters broadly support the deal...

    Interesting to note the gap between the ordinary person who votes every election and the type of person who joins a party.
    Similar to Labour really.
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    You supporting these [email protected] idiots, having given money and votes to Corbyn is not a great look Stevo.
    As made clear in the first post of my long running thread - well spotted :wink:

    Beats supporting losers I suppose.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,827 Lives Here
    With Corbyn and this crop of Tories we’re all losers, mate.
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    With Corbyn and this crop of Tories we’re all losers, mate.
    Speak for yourself, everybody's circumstances are different.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,827 Lives Here
    If you were on the titanic you’d be grabbing random kids and dressing up as a woman to get off the boat.
  • thegreatdividethegreatdivide Posts: 4,954
    Do you get free gammon with every membership?
    #f*ckwit
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,827 Lives Here
    Stevo “I’m alright Jack” 666.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 7,358
    I have to say I'm considering this. With a local MP who was a non-dom, resigned from the party, lost a by-election, does not represent his constituents at all on the most important issue in the country, yet was then reselected by the local Conservative party - makes sense to try and get a decent person in place for local representation as well as national.

    At the moment, I'd probably consider voting Tory with any other candidate to keep Stevo's man out of no.10.
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  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 7,358
    I guess the difference would be that this would be to try and get someone who you prefer in, rather than voting to for someone that you think would destroy the country if they got in. That still strikes me as perverse logic.
    and then the next thing you know
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    Stevo “I’m alright Jack” 666.
    I see the bitter centre leftie generalisations are still alive and kicking. Good to see there's no hint of resentment or jealousy of others :wink:
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    Do you get free gammon with every membership?
    Nearly everyone likes bacon so that could be a good idea to increase membership.
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  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 36,327
    I guess the difference would be that this would be to try and get someone who you prefer in, rather than voting to for someone that you think would destroy the country if they got in. That still strikes me as perverse logic.
    We are both trying to help in our own ways - as I explained a few times, my reason was to keep the Labour party out of power for the good of the country's interests - and mine (IMHO). And so far, it's worked.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 43,827 Lives Here
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Stevo “I’m alright Jack” 666.
    I see the bitter centre leftie generalisations are still alive and kicking. Good to see there's no hint of resentment or jealousy of others :wink:

    What do I have to be resentful of?

    I can think beyond my lot. Ya know, empathy? That thing toddlers learn?
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