Asthma and Team Sky
Matthewfalle
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Is it just me or is there a lot of it going around?
If it turns out that Mo Farrah is also on an asthma TUE then I reckon Team GB should invest in some Fabreze .....
Just wonderin' like ...........
If it turns out that Mo Farrah is also on an asthma TUE then I reckon Team GB should invest in some Fabreze .....
Just wonderin' like ...........
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
smithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.
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Had to take medication for it.
I don't know what to believe these days.
Stop sitting around having tea n coffee made for you MF
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Why? You're saying there's a link to cardio efficiency and asthma? Blimey. Evidence please.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Never - would mean I'd have to get a real job and I've been fighting that for years
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
I suspect there's more exercise-induced asthma in those who exercise than in those who don't.
But if you find a higher incidence in pro cyclists than in amateurs / enthusiasts then I think there's something fishy going on. Doubt Team Sky are any worse / better than the rest though.
Why would it be fishy? They exercise more than most of us. And, if I feel a bit chesty the day after I've trained hard, I can take the day off.
It boils down to, is it within the rules, or not? Pro sport is not an au-naturale contest. Not many things are. Ever take a paracetamol to get you through a day at work?
Plus they have access to doctors on the team with them - who would pick up on anything not quite right.
Joe Bloggs possibly wouldn't notice a problem and might not be arsed going to the docs about it.
To name but one.....
I am not sure. You have no chance.
I suspect that is far too sweeping and would ignore all other variables which any true study would look at.
From the most limiting and ignorant sample pool of my experience, those who played various sports and outside rarely suffered from Asthma, but those whose active involvement outdoors was limited did suffer.
Now as children did we train like pro athletes? No, was there hours upon hours of sport, yes.
Are Sky worse than the rest? no they are all as bad as each other
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Child exercises and becomes athlete. Not stretching the imagination too far.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
If they are all as bad as each other, then surely they are all competeing on the same level so it cancels each other out
So, your point? Are you suggesting there is something being covered up by the inhaler use? Or just being a d1ck about Sky?
Why do you have to be a censored to talk about Sky? Do you love them?
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Apart from all that Tour glory etc etc etc....
I remember the days when we'd send one or two riders to the worlds in mis matched kit and ask for it back after. We didnt win much back then.
Didn't Trotty do exactly this?
Sorry - don't get it. Can you explain what exactly mean? Twhat have the multi national rider funded by an Australian owned multinational company ever done for us?
Sorry - it's right over my head.
Or do you mean the fact that a Belgian and a Kenyan won the Tour?
Sorry, I really a missing the point.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Only PED aspect I could see would maybe be increased O2 transfer ?
Dont you believe it, when my daughter went up to do her first National XC running event as an u13, she stood on the line with 300 plus other girls and about 1/3 to a 1/2, were on asthma inhalers.
something to do with cold weather and lung efficiency, go to your GP, complain of coughing after/during exercise and you get the inhaler, no tests in youth/junior sport either.
In what way? Sorry, I really don't understand.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
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At least we got to the crux of the matter: Should Vegemite be on the banned list?
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It's worth noting that of that list, only Terbutaline needs a TUE in normal dosage (because, taken orally, it may have a performance-enhancing effect which is not related to lung function); all the others are either exempt or permitted at dosages up to and beyond BNF (the normal maximum dose prescribed). I had to look into this for the Worlds in Denmark last year and had a long email exchange with UKADA about it.
Even Prednisolone, an oral steroid used to treat extreme chronic bronchoconstriction, is allowed out of competition - and the side effects from that can be quite unpleasant (and quite obvious).
This article is quite good: http://theconversation.com/terbutaline- ... hell-58660
I can vouch for the nasty side effects of Prednisolone over a long period, on set of cataracts and glaucoma being just a couple of them.
The body produces a natural steroidal equivalent of 8mg. The cut off from low dose to high dose is 7mg of a prescribed steroid as 15mg is considered high dose i'e 8mg + 7mg prescribed.
'High dose' is the point at which not only the body reduces it's natural production of steroids. Other secretions such as cortisone are also affected and over a period of time, some bones suffer a constriction of the natural pores causing the affected bone area to die; hence the term 'Avascular'.
They are not to be messed with.
That family of steroids and it's effects are quite different to Anabolic steroids and I don't think there has been a single case of Anabolic TUE use in a cyclist - unless someone can quote me otherwise.