Vuelta stage 17: "Climbing the Cliff" *spoiler*

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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,474
    It would be interesting to see a proper 13-15% climb in the middle of a stage to give a chance for something to break apart, rather thatn just as the MTF.
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  • Live started with 100kms to go over this heavy terrain.
    It's extremely hot. Then that cliff to climb at the finish.
    I don't envy them one little bit.
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,551
    But then they would just go slow over it, non?
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,551
    Big 27 man break including Konig, Gesink, Cataldo, Zubeldia, Frank, Thwaites...

    Apparently Gesink took the KOM on the final climb yesterday.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,213
    larkim wrote:
    It would be interesting to see a proper 13-15% climb in the middle of a stage to give a chance for something to break apart, rather thatn just as the MTF.

    Everyone would just role over it like when they put the Tourmalet in the middle of a Tour stage. The alternative would be the favourites race it, loads of riders get dropped and we end up with another stage where the grupetto rolls in an hour later.
  • larkim wrote:
    It would be interesting to see a proper 13-15% climb in the middle of a stage to give a chance for something to break apart, rather thatn just as the MTF.

    They had that to a certain extent on Saturday with the Marie Blanque topping out 40om from the finish.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Garderen Leave.
  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,851
    Gesink is very quickly getting my love back for him.

    Interesting that he does not think, in general, that he can go for both GC ranking and stage wins in GTs. Perhaps he might just be good enough to do both once he regains his confidence (and stops falling off his bike in races).
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,551
    Ridgerider wrote:
    Gesink is very quickly getting my love back for him.

    Interesting that he does not think, in general, that he can go for both GC ranking and stage wins in GTs. Perhaps he might just be good enough to do both once he regains his confidence (and stops falling off his bike in races).

    Yep, good to see him coming good again eh?
  • Pross wrote:
    larkim wrote:
    It would be interesting to see a proper 13-15% climb in the middle of a stage to give a chance for something to break apart, rather thatn just as the MTF.

    Everyone would just role over it like when they put the Tourmalet in the middle of a Tour stage. The alternative would be the favourites race it, loads of riders get dropped and we end up with another stage where the grupetto rolls in an hour later.

    They wouldn't race it if there was a decent length of flat before the next climb for the other teams to repair any damage.
  • Joelsim wrote:
    Garderen Leave.

    Is that like Gardening leave?
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,551
    Pross wrote:
    larkim wrote:
    It would be interesting to see a proper 13-15% climb in the middle of a stage to give a chance for something to break apart, rather thatn just as the MTF.

    Everyone would just role over it like when they put the Tourmalet in the middle of a Tour stage. The alternative would be the favourites race it, loads of riders get dropped and we end up with another stage where the grupetto rolls in an hour later.

    They wouldn't race it if there was a decent length of flat before the next climb for the other teams to repair any damage.

    We could get BigBean to come up with some rule involving decimation which would make them race it... :wink:
  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,851
    dish_dash wrote:
    Ridgerider wrote:
    Gesink is very quickly getting my love back for him.

    Interesting that he does not think, in general, that he can go for both GC ranking and stage wins in GTs. Perhaps he might just be good enough to do both once he regains his confidence (and stops falling off his bike in races).

    Yep, good to see him coming good again eh?

    I feel a bit guilty for being tempted by others (e.g. Kelderman).

    Gesink has class, he just needs to get his legs back and he will be complete. Hopefully he has a few years left in him and will be the sole focus of the team for the next couple of years (for the Tour anyway).
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  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,851
    dish_dash wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    larkim wrote:
    It would be interesting to see a proper 13-15% climb in the middle of a stage to give a chance for something to break apart, rather thatn just as the MTF.

    Everyone would just role over it like when they put the Tourmalet in the middle of a Tour stage. The alternative would be the favourites race it, loads of riders get dropped and we end up with another stage where the grupetto rolls in an hour later.

    They wouldn't race it if there was a decent length of flat before the next climb for the other teams to repair any damage.

    We could get BigBean to come up with some rule involving decimation which would make them race it... :wink:

    How about a 1 minute time cut off?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,213
    Or for every minute over the cut off you have a body part cut off
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,508
    Boo.
  • Are we there yet?
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,551
    nearly... and we can't even talk about the ToB winner...
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,508
    3.6km to go for leaders. They are climbing.
  • we are on the wall
  • I feel sea sick watching Gesink climb
  • norvernrob
    norvernrob Posts: 1,447
    Froome at the back of the GC group.
  • Froome in the middle of the GC group.
  • Bertie attacks
  • Contador off the front of the GC group
    Warning No formatter is installed for the format
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,508
    He has about 10m, so 10 seconds or so!
  • Nairo attacks...froome gone
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,508
    Quintana attacks and catches Contador
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,508
    Frank, Konig, Gesink
  • Yo Yo Dawg back on