Paris Tour 2015 - **SPOILERS**
11th October 2015 - start time 1145 lt
Great picture from the History section of the TdF site for the race
231 km from Chartres to Tours
In the nature of the race there's not a lot to get excited about in the profile
The Start List so far.
We are at the final curtain - the fat lady is about to sing...
Great picture from the History section of the TdF site for the race
231 km from Chartres to Tours
In the nature of the race there's not a lot to get excited about in the profile
The Start List so far.
We are at the final curtain - the fat lady is about to sing...
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Always an interesting race. Galloping Foxley with a late attack à la Phinney for the win.0
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In the past it was always known as11th October 2015 - start time 1145 lt
In the nature of the race there's not a lot to get excited about in the profile
The Longest Sprint Race on the Calendar.
I expect another solo ride from Niki Terpstra as a good training ride without traffic and just like he did in
Binche - Chimay - Binche.
For the upcoming Six Day Track season. :roll:Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Already a thread set up for this race:
viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=13024742&start=140"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718786#p19718786]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Already a thread set up for this race:
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is that cynicism creeping in
It is a 1. HC - and a non monumental classic 0 -
:-D
I was using the most important metric in judging whether it was just another small race or deserving of its own thread - it is the last race of the PTP season and thus is elevated from the common mass of the shoot small races.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718930#p19718930]SpecialGuestStar[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718786#p19718786]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Already a thread set up for this race:
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is that cynicism creeping in It is a 1. HC - and a non monumental classic
It is fashionable as identified by FJS here. Although on the original iainf chipper list PAris Tours doesn't score highly.0 -
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It's famously the only thing Merckx never won.
Apart from that a mixed bag of winners, one day specialists, GT winners, sprinters and even climbers (though Virenque's was a bit of a one off).
I'd probably go see the start but it seems to get further away from Paris every year.0 -
Still find it odd seeing it after Lombardi
Lombardi is too early now?0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718930#p19718930]SpecialGuestStar[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718786#p19718786]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Already a thread set up for this race:
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is that cynicism creeping in It is a 1. HC - and a non monumental classic
Correct. My cynicism towards our chipper chart being slightly biased.
I was told last week (admittedly only by one poster) that Milan-Turin, despite being "live", a semi-classic and HC, 20 years older than Paris-Tours and having a far better startlist: "Didn't merit a thread of it's own".
This race has in recent years become but a shadow of it's former self. Hardly any of the top sprinters now bother to turn up."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I quite like this one... The hills at the end have made it more open and attacking.
We could debate the lack of a true sprinters classic nowadays.0 -
Could perhaps argue that Scheldeprijs is a sprinters classic?
The last couple of editions of Paris Tours I thought were pretty good. The question is, will Degenkolb attack and then refuse to co-operate with his escapees like in recent years?0 -
And an Olympic medal (he was 12th in 1964). Not notable at the the time, of course, and probably never would have been had it not been for Axel Merckx winning one - thereby becoming the one thing he had won that his father hadn't.It's famously the only thing Merckx never won.Twitter: @RichN950 -
And an Olympic medal (he was 12th in 1964). Not notable at the the time, of course, and probably never would have been had it not been for Axel Merckx winning one - thereby becoming the one thing he had won that his father hadn't.It's famously the only thing Merckx never won.
Pfft.
Never won the Ras.
Lightweight.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
And an Olympic medal (he was 12th in 1964). Not notable at the the time, of course, and probably never would have been had it not been for Axel Merckx winning one - thereby becoming the one thing he had won that his father hadn't.It's famously the only thing Merckx never won.
The only OTHER thing his father had never won......0 -
I think i might have been Donald Dewitte who said being himself and Merckx they'd won everything in cycling. He'd won Paris-Tours and Merckx had won everything else
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Could perhaps argue that Scheldeprijs is a sprinters classic?
The last couple of editions of Paris Tours I thought were pretty good. The question is, will Degenkolb attack and then refuse to co-operate with his escapees like in recent years?
Don't think the moustache is riding this year. To be honest it is hard to look past Bouhanni in the sprinter stakes; if he manages to get to end without tarmacking it at least once. GvA has won it and done well several times before and is riding0 -
Be a good win for Bouhanni after a lean year, be nice to reward Cofidis with some return on what must be a decent salary.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Be a good win for Bouhanni after a lean year, be nice to reward Cofidis with some return on what must be a decent salary.
Needed for him and Cofidis - this year was pretty much just points in Dauphine Libere and in Circuit Cycliste Sarthe; he had bad luck in too many races - I thought he was nailed on for some Vuelta wins till that dreadful crash*. He does strike me as the sort of sportsman for whom the phrase "you make your own luck" applies - and this season the luck has been bad
* That was the horrid day when Kris Boeckmans went down. Just checked up and has undergone considerable facial surgery but is out of hospital and recently his twitter stream had a picture of him on a turbo trainer
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Because the UCI have loaded the calendar against it.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718997#p19718997]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:
This race has in recent years become but a shadow of it's former self. Hardly any of the top sprinters now bother to turn up.
This week most of the sprinters are in the New Race in Abu Dhabi. (I think that's where the money is ?)Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
I went Crawley Crits one year and met a very unassuming man who won Paris-Tours in 1953.
It was, I think, the biggest race he won and he was Eddy's hero when Eddy was growing up.
At last I know something of historic importance in a thread!!0 -
Because the UCI have loaded the calendar against it.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718997#p19718997]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:
This race has in recent years become but a shadow of it's former self. Hardly any of the top sprinters now bother to turn up.
This week most of the sprinters are in the New Race in Abu Dhabi. (I think that's where the money is ?)
Just seen today's top ten (via inrng) - amazing roster for a shoot small race.
http://t.co/4AiFC7CKde
(I know the're not sprinters, point is that they must be paying a lot to bring them in).0 -
Be a rare sighting of Tronet in the national French Jersey at this level0
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Watched it on highlights and Wouter Poels unfortunate fall that gifted the win to Chaves.
Just seen today's top ten (via inrng) - amazing roster for a shoot small race.
Because the UCI have loaded the calendar against it.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718997#p19718997]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:This race has in recent years become but a shadow of it's former self. Hardly any of the top sprinters now bother to turn up.
This week most of the sprinters are in the New Race in Abu Dhabi. (I think that's where the money is ?)
http://t.co/4AiFC7CKde
(I know the're not sprinters, point is that they must be paying a lot to bring them in).
3 stages out of 4 are "Sprinter Stages" and why Paris-Tours has lost out to "Petro-Dollars".
A stage race being decided on one mountain, PfftOrganiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Biggish group including Gallopin 2'45" down the road from a similarly sized chase group including Bouhanni. Crosswinds frustrating the chase, 35km to race0
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Watched it on highlights and Wouter Poels unfortunate fall that gifted the win to Chaves.
Just seen today's top ten (via inrng) - amazing roster for a shoot small race.
Because the UCI have loaded the calendar against it.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718997#p19718997]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:This race has in recent years become but a shadow of it's former self. Hardly any of the top sprinters now bother to turn up.
This week most of the sprinters are in the New Race in Abu Dhabi. (I think that's where the money is ?)
http://t.co/4AiFC7CKde
(I know the're not sprinters, point is that they must be paying a lot to bring them in).
3 stages out of 4 are "Sprinter Stages" and why Paris-Tours has lost out to "Petro-Dollars".
A stage race being decided on one mountain, Pfft
Poels timed his attack perfectly and just lost his bike out from under him on the penultimate corner. Gentlemanly of Chaves not to celebrate too hard0 -
Biggish group including Gallopin 2'45" down the road from a similarly sized chase group including Bouhanni. Crosswinds frustrating the chase, 35km to race
Turns out there's 26 riders up front. Maybe a dozen in the chase. 2'34" with 31km to go0 -
French Land Army attack off the front of the lead group. Everyone just looks at each other.. Gap down to two minutes0
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Four off the front after the little climb. Trentin plus GVA, 9km to go0
