Bank Junction protest LCC org today
vinnychoff
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I travelled to London and made a special journey for the protest. I have to say the turnout and reception was very good. I took some videos and the area came to a standstill. The motorists seemed to understand what was happening and James obrian on Lbc also was talking abou the event. I managed to call in and say my part. It was a emotional time there and I hope in some way that the event helps move on the debate of what to do to prevent deaths like this.
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https://www.tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2015/cracking-down-on-rogue-hgvs-to-improve-road-safety
Results of various Police / TFL inspections (intelligence-based rather than random) - around 70-80 percent of HGVs .
Would like to see more info on operator prosecution. There are some very responsible operators out there - and we need to give them preferential business and at the same penalise the dangerous shysters to the full extent of the law0 -
I only heard that the majority were cyclists killed by lorrys as to how or if they are illegal I am not sure. I think it is going to be a debate that will run on.0
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Tipper lorries aren't required to be fitted with side guards vinnychoff, supposedly to allow them to drive off-road on construction sites better. Side guards offer a bit of protection to cyclists in a collision as the cyclist is more likely to be knocked off to the side rather than be dragged under the wheels where really nasty injuries can occur.
Tipper lorry drivers are typically paid by the load so it is in their interest to drive as quickly as possible between jobs. Also there are regulations on these vehicles driving at night because of noise so they are out first thing in the morning during rush hour and then trying to squeeze one more job in during the evening rush.0 -
I only heard that the majority were cyclists killed by lorrys as to how or if they are illegal I am not sure. I think it is going to be a debate that will run on.
I believe visibility is seriously limited on some, maybe all, lorries. I heard a woman on Radio 4 a while ago. Her sister had been killed by some sort of lorry while cycling. She was campaigning for the legal requirement for camera(s) and screen(s) (to perform the same function as mirrors do) so that the driver is able to actually see what's around them. Because there's so many blind spots at the moment.0 -
I travelled to London
All the way from Croydon? Wow. Those lads from Jarrow would be impressed.0 -
as you all say and note. lets hope that changes are brought about to make more visible and less deaths happen with cyclists and hgv trucks0
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I was there as well - I could pick myself out on the ES photo, although I don't think anyone else would have known it was me. It was very moving - stood at the exact spot at the same time of day as the accident happened.
I haven't ticked any of the boxes as I don't know what the solution is.
As time goes on, I'm more and more of a fan of segregated cycling facilities like the Dutch have, although I know that's not always a popular opinion among cyclists. And while I'd be happy to use segregated facilities on my commute, I wouldn't want to take the slow road on a long Sunday ride.
I think there should be more of a presumed liability for motorised vehicle drivers involved in accidents, but I can't see that happening as drivers can so easily see themselves making mistakes or not being sufficiently careful and wouldn't think prosecution was a fair outcome.
Maybe lorries could be banned form the city centre during peak hours, but some comments I've seen have suggested that most deaths haven't occurred in peak hours.
I think you're being a bit harsh on vinnychoff - cycling 15 miles for a brief protest might not be as impressive as marching hundreds of miles, but that doesn't make it pointless or worthless.Never be tempted to race against a Barclays Cycle Hire bike. If you do, there are only two outcomes. Of these, by far the better is that you now have the scalp of a Boris Bike.0 -
thanks for your positive comments. i look forward to seeing changes
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I believe visibility is seriously limited on some, maybe all, lorries.... Because there's so many blind spots at the moment.
Reminds me of the case where a driver hit and killed a woman crossing a zebra crossing and got away with it because the crossing was 'in his blind spot'. :roll: How the hell are these trucks allowed on the road? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-11390936"Mummy Mummy, when will I grow up?"
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Blind spot = the area directly in front of his cab.I believe visibility is seriously limited on some, maybe all, lorries.... Because there's so many blind spots at the moment.
Reminds me of the case where a driver hit and killed a woman crossing a zebra crossing and got away with it because the crossing was 'in his blind spot'. :roll: How the hell are these trucks allowed on the road? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-11390936
Didn't a cyclist get killed by a HGV earlier this year (or end of last year) who was in the "bike box" directly in front of the truck and the truck just drove straight over them when the lights changed?0 -
Blind spot = the area directly in front of his cab.I believe visibility is seriously limited on some, maybe all, lorries.... Because there's so many blind spots at the moment.
Reminds me of the case where a driver hit and killed a woman crossing a zebra crossing and got away with it because the crossing was 'in his blind spot'. :roll: How the hell are these trucks allowed on the road? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-11390936
Didn't a cyclist get killed by a HGV earlier this year (or end of last year) who was in the "bike box" directly in front of the truck and the truck just drove straight over them when the lights changed?
a full on proper big lorry nearly killed me near blackfriars on the Embankment... when I caught him up at some lights I was shocked how far in front I had to be before he noticed me shouting at waving at him. It was at least a car length.0 -
Blind spot = the area directly in front of his cab.I believe visibility is seriously limited on some, maybe all, lorries.... Because there's so many blind spots at the moment.
Reminds me of the case where a driver hit and killed a woman crossing a zebra crossing and got away with it because the crossing was 'in his blind spot'. :roll: How the hell are these trucks allowed on the road? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-11390936
Didn't a cyclist get killed by a HGV earlier this year (or end of last year) who was in the "bike box" directly in front of the truck and the truck just drove straight over them when the lights changed?
Yes - on the Mile End Road just outside QMC. It was the terrible two weeks when three people died within a couple of hundred yards of each other. I stopped using the Mile End Road that very day because the sad little white tent was so distressing. I guess the accident was half an hour or so before I got there. And everyone was bitching and moaning and then slowly as we got to the front of the queue we realised what the delay was and everyone grew quiet - lots of a ashen-faced police and ambulance men, a mangle of steel that might once have been a bike, and a sad little white tent in the middle0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19635004#p19635004]Surrey Commuter[/url] wrote:
Blind spot = the area directly in front of his cab.I believe visibility is seriously limited on some, maybe all, lorries.... Because there's so many blind spots at the moment.
Reminds me of the case where a driver hit and killed a woman crossing a zebra crossing and got away with it because the crossing was 'in his blind spot'. :roll: How the hell are these trucks allowed on the road? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-11390936
Didn't a cyclist get killed by a HGV earlier this year (or end of last year) who was in the "bike box" directly in front of the truck and the truck just drove straight over them when the lights changed?
a full on proper big lorry nearly killed me near blackfriars on the Embankment... when I caught him up at some lights I was shocked how far in front I had to be before he noticed me shouting at waving at him. It was at least a car length.
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Always look up/back to make sure I'm in sight of the driver if pulling in front of a lorry
This, this and this again.
Make eye contact with the driver, same with car drivers, if you don't, assume they haven't seen you.0 -
Agreed, but if you can only just see his head over the dash, then he can only just about see yours!
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