Ow. Ow ow ow. B*ll*cks.

Ouch, sounds like a bad one. Get well soon.

You gonna have to pay out for the other people you took down also?

Hope you are insured :?

EDIT: Sorry that sounded abit a harsh, was just wodering if one crashes could possibly cause 5K bike damage or something, how would insurane etc claiming work in that scenario?



Reminds me I should renew my BC insurance. :oops:

Why what?

Moonbiker wrote:

Why what?

pay for others I meant .. Op has had some massive painful misfortune ..a riding incident can happen to us all.. any time.. any place... no need for this compensation culture.
Not that BC are going to stump up and pay for repairs to other people's bikes .. no way . not a fat chance

crikey wrote:

What's with all the sympathy?
Whenever I've fallen off I have been subjected to instant piss-taking and at least 6 months of being reminded of my ineptitude.
Standards have fallen, that's all I can say...

but the scars remain as opportunities to embellish the story telling in the dressing rooms up and downthe country

Oh don't worry. That's happening on Strava as we speak.

This comforts me in a keeping-up-traditions kind of way.

Get well soon!

next time someone posts a 'do i need a winter bike' thread they can be referred here

What are summer tyres? Surely they're more grippy? Unless you have some hard compound tyres that react with oil and diesel to make a sticky glue...

Anyway, at the risk of sounding like a twat, don't ride what you can't replace as they say!

dilatory wrote:

What are summer tyres? Surely they're more grippy? Unless you have some hard compound tyres that react with oil and diesel to make a sticky glue...

Anyway, at the risk of sounding like a fool, don't ride what you can't replace as they say!

That's right - when I am out riding the winter bike, I think to myself, 'If anything goes wrong, I have the summer bike for spares'. When I am out riding the summer bike, I think to myself, 'If anything goes wrong...'

Speckled wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

oscarbudgie wrote:

next time someone posts a 'do i need a winter bike' thread they can be referred here

He hit diesel not snow.

Yep called perfectly

964Cup wrote:

Half-way through a 100k group ride today, all going very nicely indeed. Trundling along at 32k (says Strava). Hit some diesel, rear wheel goes out from under me without warning. Big crash. Half the peloton come down - I watch someone's bike fly over my head. Too much damage to me & bike to continue safely - limped to Watton and took the train home. Been recuperating and reviewing the damage since. The toll so far is: right arm skinned from wrist to shoulder, right hip skinned and big oedema, various other grazes and bruises, black eye; 9070 RD & shifters, mech hanger all knackered and handlebars broken; mitts and jersey destroyed, knee warmers holed. About £900 so far in replacement costs; I hope Rapha's repair service comes through for the jersey.

Wonder if I'd have stayed up if I'd not gone out on the summer wheels & tyres...

That is all.

My sympathies; crashing is unpleasant and hurty - and worse when you skittle several others with you. I hope your recovery is swift.

Diesel is an interesting thing - it is a bane for cyclists and motorcyclists. Sometimes you can smell it, but often you can't. But it tends to live in particular places on the roadscape... at places where a swinging HGV with full tanks might splash it. Sadly, this in often on bends and roundabouts... Such is life.

I quite like your 'full race' definition of the group as a 'peloton'. I'm not sure I'd describe a training ride like that, but I may be stuck in the dark ages.

I'm sure your group is experienced and that I don't need to say this to you, but for less experienced riders thinking of heading out as a group, it's worth having a couple of wise, old owls at the sharp end - looking for things like shiny tarmac and the pong of diesel and such. They can then indicate it and give the following group a better chance of missing it.

Similarly (and this is often unrealistic in a chaingang situation) it is worth considering the eventuality of a sudden mishap when riding in a group. Strictly speaking, you are not in a peloton, the roads are not closed and you are on a public highway. Would anyone drive cars or ride motorcycles so close together that a fall or skid would skittle half the group? No. But we do it (I've done it) on bicycles.

We say (and I've said) that we do it because we know what we're doing and we take it very seriously.... And yet when excrement and Ventaxia collide, there is a big pile of bikes and (potentially) the risk of harm to other road users. I'm not preaching; I've ridden like that myself and still would if I had it in my legs... But if we saw powered vehicles doing so, many of us would be screaming about safety.

I realise the OP will know this anyway... and as a fellow offender I am not preaching, but speed, proximity, shared highways and other unpredictable variables do not make a good combination.

Moonbiker wrote:

You gonna have to pay out for the other people you took down also?

Hope you are insured :?

Twaddle. I have never heard of anyone trying to claim damages in such a manner. The manner the OP went down could happen to anyone at any time.

If we start thinking about compensation in this manner then group rides are dead. I would not even consider riding with anyone who'd tried to get money out of someone for an accident.

Debeli wrote:

Diesel is an interesting thing - it is a bane for cyclists and motorcyclists. Sometimes you can smell it, but often you can't. But it tends to live in particular places on the roadscape... at places where a swinging HGV with full tanks might splash it. Sadly, this in often on bends and roundabouts... Such is life.

It is a right pain and those spilling diesel about the road need jail in my view - if we could catch the selfish fools responsible.

I have come close on a few occasions to dropping my motorcycle due to diesel but have managed to get away with a bum-clenching wobble instead. A bicycle though - no chance of staying up when the grip starts to go.

The time the roads are worst is the first rain after a long dry spell - it brings all the oily crap up from the road surface.

In legal terms the riders who came off after the OP crashed were the ones at fault. You are duty bound to stay a distance behind the vehicle in front that would enable you to pull up safely should that vehicle have to stop suddenly. You draft the guy in front at your own risk and even if he brakes for no apparent reason any collision is down to you.

One of the primary rules of the road.

NorvernRob wrote:

Ouch When I got home today my mate messaged me, we'd split up to go home a couple of miles out and he came off crossing some tram tracks. He's currently in A&E as he's really hurt his wrist.

Rob, You don't live in Sheffield by any chance do you?
The tram tracks there are the WORST in the UK..pounded into the road by bus after bus…PERFECT width for a road type…and the owner company give advice on how to cycle on them…cross at a straight on angle!!!
I did…and like your mate..ended up eating the road!!!!!!

VinnyMarsden wrote:

NorvernRob wrote:

Ouch When I got home today my mate messaged me, we'd split up to go home a couple of miles out and he came off crossing some tram tracks. He's currently in A&E as he's really hurt his wrist.

Rob, You don't live in Sheffield by any chance do you?
The tram tracks there are the WORST in the UK..pounded into the road by bus after bus…PERFECT width for a road type…and the owner company give advice on how to cycle on them…cross at a straight on angle!!!
I did…and like your mate..ended up eating the road!!!!!!

Yes mate it is Sheffield! It happened at Manor Top, coming from Ridgeway Road to Prince of Wales. He said he crossed the tracks at right angles, then in a split second he was on the deck. Nothing's broken on him but his wrist is badly bruised. His bike got away with a broken caliper quick release and scrape on the rear mech, lucky as its a £4k Cannondale Hi Mod less than a month old!