"UK" Carbon Framset ~1000

ddraver
ddraver Posts: 26,406
edited February 2015 in Road buying advice
Hi all

Just found out I ve got a nice tax rebate having moved to NL and have about 1000 pounds that I could spend on a new road frame. I was looking at the Genesis Zero Team - http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/roa ... o-frameset - which I like as it looks good, is a good compromise between race fit and long distance comfort and is something a bit different.

I would like to have UK frame (and I know that at 1000GBP what I'm really talking about is a UK designed, Taiwan made frame) so does anyone have any other suggestions I should look at?

Cheers Guys!
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
- @ddraver

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    aprire?
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,467
    If you could spend just a little more one of the Boardman frames would be an obvious choice - more exotic in the Netherlands than in the UK perhaps?
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    The Genesis got an "it's alright but not sock blowing" kinda review in Cyclist, so maybe B/man?

    Does it have to be carbon - some really cool Ali frames from UK makers floating around ......
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • arlowood
    arlowood Posts: 2,561
    How about one of the Forme Carbon framesets. Forme are a UK bike manufacturer and supplier with a good reputation.

    http://www.formebikes.co.uk/

    Their carbon frames are probably,like most, made in the Far East but they do have a bit of novelty value. Spotted the frames on sale in Paul Milnes Ebay shop

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Forme-Axe-Edg ... 643cd15dbb

    Can vouch for the Paul Milnes outlet as I've bought 3 frames from them over the past 2 years and can't fault them.

    Might be worth a punt.
  • menthel
    menthel Posts: 2,484
    coriordan wrote:
    aprire?

    Very nice frames, especially the Vincenza... ;)
    RIP commute...
    Sometimes seen bimbling around on a purple Fratello Disc or black and red Aprire Vincenza.
  • w00dster
    w00dster Posts: 880
    I know you said carbon, but I do love Genesis steel frames. I have two genesis steel frames plus decent carbon and ali bikes, more often than not I'm out on my genesis.
    If I had the cash it would be on a 931 CDF.
    Not very helpful I know - sorry!!
    With you on the Brit manufacturer, I like to do the same as well, and yep fully aware they are made elsewhere.
  • letap73
    letap73 Posts: 1,608
    Based in the middle of nowhere and different:

    http://www.elitebikes.eu/about

    Appear to sell the whole bike but you could negotiate!
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Windy Millar if you can get one at the right price?
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • g00se
    g00se Posts: 2,221
    Condor Squadra?
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    A review is someones opinion. Try riding the genesis and see. Also the complete spec of the bike makes a difference so to compare two or more frames the spec down to the tyres and pressure used will have to be identical. Otherwise the review is comparing apples and oranages and is meaningless. That what I think of reviews.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,406
    I Can't even find that review. The road.cc and BR reviews seem positive

    Thanks for your help guys. The list has grown a tad. The trouble is with most of them is that they re custom frames so out of my price range.

    clinic - the slight trouble with riding it is finding a place with one. Genesis don't import to NL, and most of the shops in BE or France sell their more utility bikes
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • jordan_217
    jordan_217 Posts: 2,580
    By a complete Scott Addict from Westbrooks for £1300 and sell all the components to get you back on budget. Better than any other carbon frame that you'll get from PX, Ribble, Starley and Co.
    “Training is like fighting with a gorilla. You don’t stop when you’re tired. You stop when the gorilla is tired.”
  • Bordersroadie
    Bordersroadie Posts: 1,052
    http://burls.co.uk/

    Great personal service and craftsmanship.

    Custom steel (designed and handbuilt in England)
    Custom Ti (designed in England, handbuilt in Russia)

    EDIT: Oops, sorry, I just realised you said Carbon!!
  • 964cup
    964cup Posts: 1,362
    Mekk? I had a Poggio as my first road bike and it's still doing sterling service (much upgraded) as a holiday home bike.
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    I think you have to go with the your gut instincts. the bike needs to fit so ensure that it does and you can tell that from looking at the geometry. Otherwise you can tell alot about the way a bike handle from it wheelbase, fork shape headt tube angle e.t.c without even sitting on it. If you can't you will need to pop over to the U.K and take a look at some bike shops and ride home. Now there's a plan for you. Ferry ride across the channel or north sea followed by rubbish weather probbaly, good beer, fish and chips buy a bike and ride home. What could be better than that. The best thing is you don't know what you will be riding home on. Think of it as an adventure.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,406
    Geometry is almost exactly the same! The chainstays are a little longer but head and seat angle are the same. It has a straight bladed fork, but anythng will be better than the pair of noodles i ve got on my current frame...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ManOfKent
    ManOfKent Posts: 392
    arlowood wrote:
    How about one of the Forme Carbon framesets. Forme are a UK bike manufacturer and supplier with a good reputation.

    http://www.formebikes.co.uk/

    Their carbon frames are probably,like most, made in the Far East but they do have a bit of novelty value.
    You're right. As if the ad line "Designed in the UK" wasn't clear enough that the bikes are manufactured elsewhere, mine came in a box with the word "Taiwan" in very large letters. After a slow start the bike has grown on me although I'm not entirely convinced about the quality of the matte paint job.
  • vermin
    vermin Posts: 1,739
    Dolan?

    Personally, I'd be all over this, were it a bit bigger. I think Raleigh qualifies as British. Sort of.

    http://www.usedvehiclessale.co.uk/ralei ... red999-99/
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,406
    Well, just ordered the Genesis (and a crankset) from our friend (I guess) thecycleclinic

    Lets see if i can fit on it after my somewhat catastrophic bike fit

    Excited
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    £1000 is a hard ceiling to hit b/c it's kinda low for really desirable stuff but if you like sales there are lots of things on offer.

    The approach suggested by others is what I did - troll the known bucket shops like Merlin, Slane, Westbrook, Pauls to find options you might not have considered. Some examples, Pauls has the normal mod Super Six Evo frame for £899. No it's not British but it's a lot more enticing than Ribble, Graham Weigh, or Planet X.

    A used Wyndymilla would be a really nice find. They're race proven and unique on the continent and British. Same with Dolan, Kinesis, Condor, Pearson, Raleigh - brands that people depend on.

    Mekk, Comtat, Sabbath, Omega, Verenti, Setavento, Pinnacle, Beacon, Moda, Genesis, Orro, Forme - don't have longevity. Pull out an old Cycle Sport from 2007 or 2009 and you'll see many fly-by-night 'brands' which are now defunct. I'm not down on them, they're just not inspiring - and in my 40s, in the middle of winter, inspiration is all I have to go on.
    When a cyclist has a disagreement with a car; it's not who's right, it's who's left.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,406
    well way to piss on my parade there Frans....
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Seems a bit strange this thread. You move from the UK to the Netherlands. You have both Canyon and Rose merely a few hours drive away from your location and you want a British bike made in Taiwan. Mmmm
  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    How so? Sorry never meant to. Picking a new frame is one of life's major thrills and to be fully enjoyed. You just want to avoid ending up with a Dalkiia or Monoc (remember those?)

    http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m6b0s25p0/ ... oad-Racing Not sure what size you take but those are some mental prices on Cannondales.
    http://www.slanecycles.com/framesets-ro ... nmbr0cs487 Same here for Argon 18s etc.

    If your stay in the Low Countries isn't permanent, an approach could be to get something to remind you of there once you're back here or somewhere else? There are lots of smaller fiets companies which are quite cool:

    n7even: http://www.n7evenbikes.be/
    Zannatta: http://www.zannata.be/
    Koga (or, not Koga, was just joking)
    Stevens are really nice as well, typical Teutonic engineering led but very tidy.
    When a cyclist has a disagreement with a car; it's not who's right, it's who's left.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,406
    I'm not sure Canyon and Rose are somehow "more special"

    Plus the Canyon frames are someway out of my budget
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    This is outside your budget?

    http://m.canyon.com/en/details.html?bike_id=3681
  • brettjmcc
    brettjmcc Posts: 1,361
    Dave, if you don't mind going Swiss... this is probably not the moment to tell you that I bought a BMC GF01 frame from Westbrook with gearkit for 1499 the other day, without the frame it is 899....
    BMC GF01
    Quintana Roo Cd01
    Project High End Hack
    Cannondale Synapse SL (gone)
    I like Carbon
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,406
    MR - Fine, but I don't want an endurance frame

    Brett - Good spot, but BMC just don't do it for me - too much association with a Team where Careers go to die ;)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • brettjmcc
    brettjmcc Posts: 1,361
    ddraver wrote:
    Brett - Good spot, but BMC just don't do it for me - too much association with a Team where Careers go to die ;)

    Perfect analogy for me then LOL.

    Mine arrived today, there's a few items I need for it which it hasn't come with; the integrated chain catcher, and the di2 plugs. No biggy really, but trying to contact Evans (the official BMC distributor) is like trying to get blood from a stone. I've now ended up contacting a retailer in Germany....
    BMC GF01
    Quintana Roo Cd01
    Project High End Hack
    Cannondale Synapse SL (gone)
    I like Carbon
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    ddraver wrote:
    MR - Fine, but I don't want an endurance frame

    Brett - Good spot, but BMC just don't do it for me - too much association with a Team where Careers go to die ;)

    Thats ok the ultimate cf sl is available for under a grand too. That is a frame with a winning pedigree.
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    Forme has been mentioned - this is just a Moore Large brandname

    Same with Moda

    Do you really want a Emmelle ?

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