GoPro Settings/My Biking Videos
schmako
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Alright dudes, was wondering what you find are the best settings for filming your biking? I've got it at 1080p 60fps (silver 3+ - this is the highest setting on it I think) atm.
Also are there any different programs you use for editing, i'm messed about with windows movie maker/gopro studio and they seem to do the job, but if you know of any others let me know.
Here's the video, you may not like the music, but its better than the freehub/background noise (I think), again the trail is nothing special just a fast steep fire road up my local hills, felt if I was going any faster I would've washed out (would've made better footage I guess!). Any advice on how change the camera set up for the better would be cool, cheers.
Also are there any different programs you use for editing, i'm messed about with windows movie maker/gopro studio and they seem to do the job, but if you know of any others let me know.
Here's the video, you may not like the music, but its better than the freehub/background noise (I think), again the trail is nothing special just a fast steep fire road up my local hills, felt if I was going any faster I would've washed out (would've made better footage I guess!). Any advice on how change the camera set up for the better would be cool, cheers.
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that's a nice road you were on. I thought they had hills in Scotland? :?0
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welshkev wrote:that's a nice road you were on. I thought they had hills in Scotland? :?
Sadly not on the outskirts of edinburgh! You can thank the army for making it so boring, it used to be pretty technical til it got flattened, so they can get the troops up there easy I guess (lazy farkers). Will see if I can capture some more interesting stuff from the local hills and further afield!0 -
On the plus side, the camera position is right
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welshkev wrote:On the plus side, the camera position is right
Nice! When the camera is on the chest mount it looks like it is filming the sky, but the first couple of attempts with the camera at a normal looking postion led me to believe otherwise with nothing but ground in shot.
Surprised i've not been flamed for putting the brake on without cutting the hose too!0 -
Schmako wrote:Surprised i've not been flamed for putting the brake on without cutting the hose too!
I just fit my M615's without cutting the hose as well, can't be arsed. I'll get around to it when I get wrapped around a tree due to it getting snagged
Should take a ride up to the Pentlands mate, great tracks up there.0 -
Gibbo3771 wrote:Schmako wrote:Surprised i've not been flamed for putting the brake on without cutting the hose too!
I just fit my M615's without cutting the hose as well, can't be arsed. I'll get around to it when I get wrapped around a tree due to it getting snagged
Should take a ride up to the Pentlands mate, great tracks up there.
Nice one not the only one anyway!
Yeah the pentlands are decent, plenty of choice up there from easy (round the reservoirs) to pretty brutal (5 peaks). Only complaint is some of the natural stuff being replace by man-made paths (boring).0 -
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Hi mate, I've got the original GoPro HD hero and use setting R3 which ISTR is 1080 x 30 FPS. Unless you are doing super slo-mo I think 60FPS is a bit too much for files that you are just compressing and uploading to the internet.
Camera position looks good. Me I like a bit of rear hub/trail noise although obviously music enhances most videos. If you mute the trail sounds completely I feel a bit divorced from what the rider is experiencing.
Here's one of mine shot last month using the settings mentioned above.
Nosebleed section
I use Adobe Premiere Elements Pro version 8. Picked it up on the web somewhere for about £20. It's got a load more features than MWMM but is really difficult to get used to.
Stuff I find that work well is following other riders. Makes the video much more interesting. Also I like to cut short clips together. It's the 21st century and we've all got short attention spans so keep it short.
Nine minutes is probably a bit long for most people too but hey! if it works for you then go for it.FCN = 40 -
Hey, thanks for the advice! Nice video, will need to try my hand at editing the next time, I see what you mean about the sound too. Will also try 30fps as the 60fps ones take ages to upload and I guess the file size is much bigger too..
My riding mates need to learn to pedal, quite frustrating being at the back of them unfortunately!0 -
Up my local hills last weekend:
mass start red bull foxhunt
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my run of the same course
Was pretty surreal meeting Rachel Atherton, she was cool though!0 -
Schmako wrote:Up my local hills last weekend:
mass start red bull foxhunt
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my run of the same course
Was pretty surreal meeting Rachel Atherton, she was cool though!
Turn the youtube anti-shake thing off! Makes me feels sick haha0 -
Great Vid I feel out of breath watching it lol0
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Have turned the anti shake thing off, thought it would've made it better!
Cheers cube1961, the push up to the top was harsh (x4 over two days), the official riders got an uplift half way, thankfully on the way down there wasn't too much pedaling needed!0 -
Seconding the anti-shake thing. It doesn't work and horribly distorts the video to a point that it can cause nausea and headaches in viewers.
60fps is probably too high as the standard for the internet is 29.97fps. It does mean you can do slow motion, but unless you're going out to deliberately film slo-mo, I'd avoid it. The other reason is that even though the Silver has the ability to go up to 60fps and improved low-light sensors, filming at twice the speed means it has to film at a higher ISO setting, so it comes out darker than it should be and really doesn't work well on dull days or in shade.
The other thing is filesize. 60fps will take double the space as a 30fps. Not too bad if you're only filming a few minutes at a time, but if you have a long ride or many shots, such as on an uplift day, the card will fill up a lot faster. Then when you upload it to youtube, the video is massive compared to what is actually possible on youtube, so you'll be uploading a lot longer.
When you have the chest mount in the Red Bull video, it's shaking more than it should be. Either your harness isn't tight enough, so it has play, or you've not put in the white anti-vibration bumper for the clip, or one of the screws on the mount isn't tight enough.
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Cheers for the advice!
Have switched to 30fps and can see what you mean about the file sizes, never knew about the light issues on 60fps too but did notice when going from an open area to woods or something it would struggle to adjust quickly.
And yep, for the red bull event the chest mount was pretty loose, finally think i've mastered getting it on properly (yes I am a mong!), I usually fail with something when i'm filming. Got 38mins of footage at the weekend, will need to get to editing it down to an interesting 4-5 mins and see if it comes out better.
And yeah dude hope all is good with you!0 -
Latest effort, riding the Glentress Black.
Almost crash 3 minutes in, my first shot at editing probably not cut together great, just used windows movie maker.0 -
You said it was shot on Boundary Trail, Britney Spears and Leithen Door, but that bit at 30sec is The Goat Track.
I DEMAND MY MONEY BACK!
Editing-wise, keep doing it. It might not be great, but over time you learn and improve, so don't think of it as being a bit rubbish, think of it as a first step.
That said, you still have a lot of shake going on with the camera. It's not the side to side of a loose chest-mount now though. I'm guessing you're riding hardtail, as rear suspension, even on an xc bike should stabilise it a bit more. I'd recommend going for a helmet mounting over chest. Head means you have another level of suspension to keep the camera steady.
Otherwise, if you're keeping chest-mounted, aim the camera up a little bit. When you're descending, you get a lot of bike but not much trail in shot. Chest mounts tend to work a lot better on full-on downhill stuff where the angle is steeper, so you get more trail in. As with everything though, it's just a case of playing around until you get a setup that works for you!
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Nice one, forgot half the trail names and was going by the names on the map i've got!
Yeah was on the orange (which is long overdue a good service), thinking a helmet mount would be a wise investment. Think i'm too skinny for my own good the chest mount does still move about alot even when its tight especially over the rough bits. One things for sure is i'll be trying to take the smoothest lines to avoid the annoying shake.
Always seem to misjudge the angle too, guessing it'd be easier to judge on the helmet, will need to grab a new mount come payday and get filming!0 -
Latest effort up the Pentlands. Legs are destroyed from doing it today!
Tried to get the camera to be more stable, not really sure if I succeeded, also nothing special when it comes to editing, just cut out the boring bits! Failed when my headphone and camelbak strap got in the way of the camera which is a bit annoying, but thankfully not the whole time.
Decent weather + no mechanicals = good day!0 -
Bit of snow biking in yesterday!
Next video coming to you from a helmet mount as I still can't seem to get a totally stable shot from the chesty.0 -
Well I guess I lied, still on the chesty!
Just a quick blast round my local woods, chain snapping was a bit annoying but was lucky to be a mile or so from home.0 -
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Very true cyd, still not got the helmet mount, I guess it would be cool to have a chesty and helmet cam at the same time, but that would require two cameras, maybe someday!
Latest effort up the local hills.0 -
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Here are a few pictures from my latest trip round Ben Alder:
Having left Dalwhinnie and cycled along the edge of Loch Ericht we get our first proper view of Ben Alder.
Getting closer to Ben Alder along a great winding track with lots of drainage ditches.
Culra Bothy, picture says it all really. We weren't planning on staying here anyway, just stopped for a break.
After climbing for a lot of the day we reached the highest point of day one and had a great descent ahead (will upload video at some point). Looking out over Loch Ossian.
Reached the bottom in one piece to be greeted by more amazing scenery.
Ben Alder Cottage/Bothy where we stayed the night.
Chilling in the bothy.
Inside the bothy.
Bikes ready to go on the morning of day two.
Part the way up the brutal climb on day two.
Part of the descent went alongside this loch on Ben Alder (Loch a' Bhealaich Bheithe)
Looking back to what we had just descended as we are closing in on Loch Pattack and home.
What a truly amazing trip!0
