Moyes watch: Real Sociedad (RIP)

pinno
pinno Posts: 51,195
edited February 2015 in The bottom bracket
Are we taking bets for relegation to Liga Adelante ?

First fixture against Deportivo de La Coruna away.

5 out of the bottom 6 on 9 points including RS.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,591
    I am willing to bet that he will do fine.

    Manchester United was a step too big with fans demanding a style of play opposite to his management and a squad that was past it's sell by date.

    That said, 11 managers since 2006?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,156
    Hard to say what will happen. We all loved it when things went pear shaped at Manure when he was in charge, but that was after 10 years or so of doing a steady, decent job at Everton. And he did better in the same period last season than Van Gaal has managed to date this season, without having spent £150m or so.

    He needs to get it right though as another mess up and he'll turn up somewhere in the Rymans next.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Mid table club with mid table aspirations - the mid table man will be fine, be heralded as a reformed character and welcomed back to the British fold.

    I'll put a fiver on him being Celtic or Rangers manager within 5 years.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,195
    Mid table club with mid table aspirations - the mid table man will be fine, be heralded as a reformed character and welcomed back to the British fold.

    I'll put a fiver on him being Celtic or Rangers manager within 5 years.

    If the job comes up, I think you should go for it and call it a positive career change.
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  • Manc33
    Manc33 Posts: 2,157
    What gets me is Martinez seems to be a better manager. When did Moyes ever win the FA Cup? I honestly wished Martinez had come to United during Moyes ill fated reign. Everton doing better than us really rubbed it in.

    Unless some billionaires buy up Man United they can't rival Chelsea or City. No one can or will. Liverpool came close but they are like a special case, I even say that as a Manc. I mean they can just somehow do it and I guess United are that way a bit, with team spirit. No one else has a chance, not even Arsenal!
  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    Manc33 wrote:
    Unless some billionaires buy up Man United they can't rival Chelsea or City. No one can or will.

    You're joking right? I can accept cries of an unfair advantage from Burnley, West Brom or even Everton fans for example, but Manchester United! :lol: Yes poor United only being able to spend over a £140 million this summer alone! I think the problems at United have absolutely zilch to do with lack of money and more to do with allowing a squad to stagnate over a period. Poor poor United :lol: , that's a cracker! You do have to spend it wisely though, Luke Shaw cost more than the whole Chelsea defence!
  • When Moyes came to United he inherited a very poor team, yes everyone will say but they won the premier league, but to me that strictly isn't true, other teams threw it away, United have not been good for years, it's just that other teams were a little bit worse so United won things, other teams have now got better whereas the job to sort United is huge and will take years, I'm a United fan and I have enjoyed our success but I also understand it doesn't last forever but I will always support them.
    The job after fergie was impossible and I did think Moyes was the man to sort it, but it seems the players weren't keen on him, like Rio said in his book and if the players won't play for you there is not a lot you can do, happened at other clubs as well, looks like it's happening at City at the moment too.
    He seems to be a good likeable man but in football it's everything straight away or you are out, so he was on a hiding to nothing.
    I for one hope he does well in Spain and establishes himself as a good manager again.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,156
    Blimey, we have some Man U fans on the forum. Fair play to you both for coming clean on that :wink: Maybe you'd like to join us in the Premier League thread sometime :twisted:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • tlw1
    tlw1 Posts: 21,831
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Blimey, we have some Man U fans on the forum. Fair play to you both for coming clean on that :wink: Maybe you'd like to join us in the Premier League thread sometime :twisted:

    you looking for some fun Stevo?
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Mid table club with mid table aspirations - the mid table man will be fine, be heralded as a reformed character and welcomed back to the British fold.

    I'll put a fiver on him being Celtic or Rangers manager within 5 years.

    If the job comes up, I think you should go for it and call it a positive career change.

    Fantastic find - chapeau. I had no idea that they existed. Right, get my CV in - I'm definitely, as Michael & rid gelt once said, their man.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Manc33 wrote:

    Unless some billionaires buy up Man United they can't rival Chelsea or City. No one can or will. Liverpool came close but they are like a special case, I even say that as a Manc. I mean they can just somehow do it and I guess United are that way a bit, with team spirit. No one else has a chance, not even Arsenal!

    That's a fantastic piece of comedy writing. The self claimed biggest club in the world needs financial assistance.


    Brilliant.

    Perhaps Socialist dock worker non Gorbels living Ferguson could donate some of his wine cellar sale proceeds or horse racing funds to the cause?
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,156
    matthew h wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Blimey, we have some Man U fans on the forum. Fair play to you both for coming clean on that :wink: Maybe you'd like to join us in the Premier League thread sometime :twisted:

    you looking for some fun Stevo?
    Not that sort of fun...but now the Liverpool fans don't go on that thread anymore we only have a gobby City fan and a couple of deluded Gooners to take the mick out of :wink:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Manc33
    Manc33 Posts: 2,157
    It used to be if United had not scored before 20 minutes was up you got worried. That's going back 15 years though. Now I just hope they get a draw or whatever - often against mediocre teams. If I want to see some good football now I just watch Chelsea and City. :roll: Its all down to Van Gaal, but what's good about him is he won't shy away from attacking football and will chew up and spit out players if they don't perform.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,195
    Lancstony wrote:
    The job after fergie was impossible and I did think Moyes was the man to sort it, but it seems the players weren't keen on him, like Rio said in his book and if the players won't play for you there is not a lot you can do, happened at other clubs as well, looks like it's happening at City at the moment too.
    He seems to be a good likeable man but in football it's everything straight away or you are out, so he was on a hiding to nothing.
    I for one hope he does well in Spain and establishes himself as a good manager again.

    By that statement Van Gaal should be out and in hindsight, Moyes was the man for the job.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,195
    @ Stevo: not deluded, just resigned to scraping into the last CL position oh and winning the odd FA cup.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,156
    @ Stevo: not deluded, just resigned to scraping into the last CL position oh and winning the odd FA cup.
    Sorry, my mistake. I meant to say a deluded City fan and a couple of gobby Gooners :P
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Manc33
    Manc33 Posts: 2,157
    I wouldn't have minded if Wenger was made United manager, but Arsenal fans didn't like me saying that lol. It wouldn't have worked out for the same reasons it didn't work out with Moyes.

    It didn't work out with Fergie for a few years in the beginning, but no one expected anything back then. It takes years before a club can say hey, we can't let this guy go. Thats why suggesting Wenger at United horrifies Arsenal fans, I mean he is a world class manager and I think (might be going out on a limb here) Arsenal have played the best football in the Premiership going back to when it started, but only when they are playing at their best.

    When they had Anelka up front, thats when they were playing pure football as you wanted to see it played. It got scary because I thought they might stay like that, become untouchable almost like the Barca of England, but its probably impossible. Wenger also had them undefeated for an entire season that time, not easy! In some respects then Wenger has done things even Fergie couldn't.
  • city_boy
    city_boy Posts: 1,616
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Not that sort of fun...but now the Liverpool fans don't go on that thread anymore we only have a gobby city fan and a couple of deluded Gooners to take the mick out of :wink:

    :lol:
    Cheeky tw#t :wink:
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,156
    City Boy wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Not that sort of fun...but now the Liverpool fans don't go on that thread anymore we only have a gobby city fan and a couple of deluded Gooners to take the mick out of :wink:

    :lol:
    Cheeky tw#t :wink:
    At last, a bite! :mrgreen:
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  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    My Lord, I might be a deluded and occasionally gobby Gooners fan. But even I haven't smoked enough wacky baccy to believe we were akin to Barcelona when playing ANELKA up front.

    Any half decent forward ( besides TGSTEL Bendtner) gets pushed out onto the right wing and made to try and come inside.

    As for United being an under- financed club that requires Billionaire benefactors to compete with Man City and Chelsea. that's the best laugh I ve had all year, Haven't you just signed a £750 million shirt deal with Nike on the proviso you only bring out 12 different home, away and training shirts this season? Hope one's Grey!!!

    As for Moyes I am sure he will perform adequately at Real Sociedad, but I bet the ginger fecker burns like a lobster in pre-season training.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,156
    tim wand wrote:
    My Lord, I might be a deluded and occasionally gobby Gooners fan. But even I haven't smoked enough wacky baccy to believe we were akin to Barcelona when playing ANELKA up front.

    Any half decent forward ( besides TGSTEL Bendtner) gets pushed out onto the right wing and made to try and come inside.

    As for United being an under- financed club that requires Billionaire benefactors to compete with Man City and Chelsea. that's the best laugh I ve had all year, Haven't you just signed a £750 million shirt deal with Nike on the proviso you only bring out 12 different home, away and training shirts this season? Hope one's Grey!!!

    As for Moyes I am sure he will perform adequately at Real Sociedad, but I bet the ginger fecker burns like a lobster in pre-season training.
    Only pulling your leg TW.

    As for Man U needing more finance :lol: And why do they need to bring out all those new shirts when they have millions available, washed and ironed, for £1 a pop:

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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,921
    On the subject of Manure shirts, Asda seem to bought up a load of shirts.

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  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    Ballysmate wrote:
    On the subject of Manure shirts, Asda seem to bought up a load of shirts.

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,195
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    That confused me Pina? Don't take much!!! Should have known if you give a Scot ( all be it a Kenyan one) an opt out to an alternative, he'll just go back to whining at ( in ) the original one. :)
  • plowmar
    plowmar Posts: 1,032
    Appears that Van Gaal has said that it will take three years to turn the team around, imagine what would have happened if Moyes had said that after two months.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,195
    plowmar wrote:
    Appears that Van Gaal has said that it will take three years to turn the team around, imagine what would have happened if Moyes had said that after two months.

    Where this belongs
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  • tim_wand
    tim_wand Posts: 2,552
    Careful Pina , your turning into Ric :D
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 51,195
    tim wand wrote:
    Careful Pina , your turning into Ric :D

    Just trying to get a few 'foreigners' in the mix.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 58,156
    tim wand wrote:
    Careful Pina , your turning into Ric :D

    Just trying to get a few 'foreigners' in the mix.
    It's not working - those Manure fans are a shy breed these days :D
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]