Canyon Endurace | Campagnolo Chorus | Grey/Blue
EKIMIKE
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So here we go. This is a completely standard spec model, nothing has been changed and I don't plan for any changes except for the saddle, maybe. As you see it in the pictures here, it has been dialed in perfectly for me - so the spacer stack needs to disappear. It's a size L, for large.
Using the wholly un-reliable method of *man + bike on scales*, it weighed in at around 7.4 - 7.6kg. The scales couldn't make their mind up. Nevertheless, this bike isn't about weight. Here are some details...
There is a whole load of material in the BB area. The seat-tube is comparatively slender.
The downtube is huge and the chainstays are far more sculpted than my older Ultimate CF model.
I really like the seatpost. I'm hoping it lends a tangible difference to the ride. If not, it looks feckin' sweet anyway.
Now to ride the shi-ite out of the thing before summer is over!
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What stops that split in the seatpost flexing and cracking the carbon tube? Is that why Canyon has had some frames crack in that area.
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Completely agree on the industrial design. IMO Canyon's aren't good looking in the sense of beautiful, classic aesthetic but they have a purposeful look that is pleasing to the eye.
There have been some problems with cracking around the top of the seat-tube where the collar is. So far I have only seen this on the Ultimate SLX model. This model is new so it's unclear whether or not it will be affected by the same problem. Fingers crossed that it won't!
The 2.0 seatpost has been around for quite a while now and these problems have only seemed to emerge recently so perhaps the issue is just isolated to the new Ultimate SLX model or perhaps the slimmed down collar that they were issuing with that model.
Yeah- I have a feeling its something to do with the collar and flex in the 2.0 seatpost thats fracturing some setups. Would be interested in your ride review, hopefully it will fulfil its fast racy yet comfortable purpose without giving away that stiff off the mark pace Canyons are known for.
The cleaner and more original it is the better the resale value if you come to sell it. So best not ride it at all then. Clean it, pop it back in the box.
What a load of tosh. Cut the steerer when you want to and hang if/when/maybe/maybe not/sometime/perhaps you may sell/not sell it.
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This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
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Not sure why your head spacer arrangement is different to mine, my bars are higher with no spacers above. Do they fine tune the sizing based in the dimensions given on the order ?
Nope. I know the dimensions for my ideal setup and changed the bike accordingly. Part of the reason I bought the thing was that it fits like a glove.
I simply whipped the stem off and put the spacers on top.
Managed to get some good distance in today. In terms of comfort - great stuff. That seatpost does work and you can feel it working - but at the same time it's not excessive to the point of being a distraction. Of course it's not life changing stuff and it's effect shouldn't be overstated but it works. Others riding the bunch commented that they could see it flexing. The whole package, with the tyres and wheels too, makes for a very smooth ride. More so than other bikes I've ridden.
Comparing it with my Ultimate, this model doesn't seem to have lost any of that zippy edge. It feels solid on the hills. As solid as the Ultimate and that respect that is where these bikes excel.
All in all it's more or less faultless.
Eh what?
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It was red-black or nothing for me. At least for the frameset only option.
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Some other junk...
One thing - the saddle - I thought the stock saddle was the Fizik Aliante (not the Selle Italia on yours)....was this your spec??
No matter I guess.
I've also already got these in prep to put on her....
http://wheelworks.co.nz/cliffs-rail-wheelset/
Just cannot wait.
Cheers
It was meant to come with the Aliante. Some on the Endurace thread in 'Road Buying Advice' have suggested that if this happens, you can contact Canyon and they will supply the Aliante in due course - there was a supply chain delay.
I'm getting on okay with the Selle Italia - not 100% sure about it. I've done around 200 miles on it now. I usually ride a Charge Spoon. I might request an Aliante and see how they compare.
I'm roughly 6ft 1.5in. I can't quite remember my inseam but it's not too far off 90cm IIRC. You won't have any issues with the inseam measurement at any rate. I've got plenty of room to manoeuvre either way on the seatpost.
The only thing you may have an issue with is the reach and handlebar height. The reach is pretty short and would put most normal people in a very upright position. I've got an unusually short reach so it suits me fine with the standard spec. stem length. The headtube is fairly tall too. If it was any taller it would be too tall for me but luckily for me it's perfect with no spacers under the stem. The glove-like fit was a major part of the appeal of this bike for me.
Ride Update
After a couple hundred miles, I can say that not much has changed from my initial impressions. The ride is very smooth, particularly at the back - more so than my old Ultimate CF. It's very stiff and still feels lively. The front end is particularly stiff, as you would expect from Canyon's oversize steerer. This in particular feels great out of the saddle, on the hills.
I can't complain with the wheels. They still run true, as you would expect. They're not remarkably stiff while not being noodles. They spin up nicely and they're a pleasant weight for the hills. Of course, the fact that they are 23mm wide is a major plus from a comfort perspective. I'm running the front and rear tyres at 85psi and 95psi respectively. For context, I weigh around 80 kilo's.
Was also looking at a Synapse or a Defy, but the value for £ of the Canyon is so much better. My only concern is dealing with Canyon if things go wrong; i've read some bad things about their customer service. I'd rather not buy from one of the big brands and think the Endurace looks awesome so am prepared to take the risk! If i order now won't be ready until mid-late september though
Save for the recent seatpost/frame cracking issues I haven't come across a consistent flaw in their products or service (internet or real world). I'd wager that 95% of customers get great service with no hitches in the order process.
Customer service isn't part of Canyon's appeal but ultimately, the warranty is way above average, the value for money is way above average and most importantly the bikes perform way above average. (That last one may be a tad subjective
Glad you are liking your purchase.
Thanks, I took it on a very demanding loop today - lots of hills with a vertical Km in 45 miles, 19% grades, plenty of poor road surfaces, some near cyclocross and a bucket load of rain. It was a pleasure to ride (kinda helps that I'm going well too).
Just wondering, I have a new Endurace and am having an issue with looseness/excessive flex/movement in the front end. Ie when you apply front break, some weight on saddle, you can feel movement in headset area that just shouldn't be there.
What is interesting about this is that bike mechanic says there is no mechanical problem in headset, bearings etc and more worrying a pro bike fitter I know says he has got hands on with 3 Enduraces now and all 3 have the same problem.
I'm torn, because like you I'm loving the bike. Its awesome to ride, but something seems fundamentally wrong with the frame/fork/headset. Its enough movement to know it just should be there in a new bike.
Is it something you have noticed? Rest your body on saddle, apply front brake and see how much movement there is forward/backward. Its a worry.
Tried talking to Canyon about it?
I'd be interested to hear opinions.