Max Clifford
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A bit surprised, yes.
Not because I don't regard Clifford as a sleazeball, but because of the debacle of Yewtree and the 'batting average' of the CPS.0 -
Absolutely love Clifford. I've met him a few times now and he's wonderful company...I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0
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I don't think its surprising that he did it, I think its surprising that they actually manage to obtain the convictions. After all, they seem to have massively failed with everyone else, and you would have thought that old Maxey bot would have enough dirt on everyone to have made sure that nothing ever got through the initial CPS reviews .....
I've actually worked on his car.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
SloppySchleckonds wrote:Absolutely love Clifford. I've met him a few times now and he's wonderful company...Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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seanoconn wrote:SloppySchleckonds wrote:Absolutely love Clifford. I've met him a few times now and he's wonderful company...
But how does he compare to Tyson, that's what I want to know, I heard he's a thoroughly nice chap."Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity"
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arran77 wrote:seanoconn wrote:SloppySchleckonds wrote:Absolutely love Clifford. I've met him a few times now and he's wonderful company...
But how does he compare to Tyson, that's what I want to know, I heard he's a thoroughly nice chap.0 -
SloppySchleckonds wrote:Absolutely love Clifford. I've met him a few times now and he's wonderful company...0
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SloppySchleckonds wrote:Absolutely love Clifford. I've met him a few times now and he's wonderful company...
So I take it you yourself were groomed and exploited leading to your forum moniker?
Did Maxy put you on the road to stardom after“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
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"A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"
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He wont be parked illegally in Weybridge anymore one assumes??Life isnt like a box of chocolates, its like a bag of pic n mix.0
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simonhead wrote:He wont be parked illegally in Weybridge anymore one assumes??
Not for the next few years I would imagine….I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0 -
The papers seem to think that he'll get up to two years, so he'll probably be out in a year.~~~~~~Sustrans - Join the Movement~~~~~~0
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natrix wrote:The papers seem to think that he'll get up to two years, so he'll probably be out in a year.
Yes, but probably with an arsehole the size of a Wizards sleave.If I know you, and I like you, you can borrow my bike box for £30 a week. PM for details.0 -
Can you actually have an arsehole in an arsehole?0
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anonymousblackfg wrote:natrix wrote:The papers seem to think that he'll get up to two years, so he'll probably be out in a year.
Yes, but probably with an arsehole the size of a Wizards sleave."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:anonymousblackfg wrote:natrix wrote:The papers seem to think that he'll get up to two years, so he'll probably be out in a year.
Yes, but probably with an arsehole the size of a Wizards sleave.
Kiss and tell?0 -
diplodicus wrote:Kiss and tell?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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Just his bad luck that there isn't some sort of media guru type around who knows about getting celebs off this kind of rap.......Faster than a tent.......0
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I love the fact that a few chose bad taste over decency, I guess thats why they don't turn left
Anyway, now that he has been found guilty I think it fair game to throw sticks at him, you see, I've never changed my stance on these situations, we have a law and should stick to it.
Innocent until proven guilty and now he has been proven guilty he deserves all that comes to him. We (the public) should not hear about claims until AFTER court as that is the DECENT thing to do, there have been plenty of innocent people wrongly accused and lets not forget that the last man hanged in England was in fact innocent !!
I am surprised he was found guilty, as mentioned above, operation yew tree has been a huge failure and will be the sole reason many offenders will never be bought to justice or even if they are, will never been found guilty.
Anyway, I've got to get packing, got a long journey ahead of me.Living MY dream.0 -
VTech wrote:We (the public) should not hear about claims until AFTER court as that is the DECENT thing to do, there have been plenty of innocent people wrongly accused and lets not forget that the last man hanged in England was in fact innocent !!
It's an impossible situation where you can be damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'm glad I'm not the one that has to make the decision as to wether or not to name and shame someone who may turn out to be innocent.0 -
Its too simplistic to level failings at the Police for Yewtree.
The police will investigate and then refer the matter to the CPS who then decide if the evidence warrants a prosecution. Damned if you prosecute and damned if you don't.
You then have a jury trial and defendants who have the means to buy the best legal defence team. It seems if you are in the public eye your trial will be elongated to the ends of time. Jury selection and quality are woeful with the threshold seemingly set just above "learning difficulties" for a person to qualify.“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
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Veronese68 wrote:VTech wrote:We (the public) should not hear about claims until AFTER court as that is the DECENT thing to do, there have been plenty of innocent people wrongly accused and lets not forget that the last man hanged in England was in fact innocent !!
It's an impossible situation where you can be damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'm glad I'm not the one that has to make the decision as to wether or not to name and shame someone who may turn out to be innocent.
Im not sure that this would deter people, I would say that once a conviction is placed, it would give people more of a willing to come forward knowing they stand more chance of being believed. I am not saying my way is the only way and it should be so. I just worry about those wrongly accused and we must do everything possible to at least try and get the right result every time.coriordan wrote:VTech wrote:I love the fact that a few chose bad taste over decency
As opposed to the subject of the thread to chose to lie to and assault minors?
Two wrongs don't make a right. I wouldn't burgle the guy who burgled my house a few years ago simply to "get him back"
His punishment came from the courts with my assistance and justice was done.Living MY dream.0 -
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VTech wrote:Veronese68 wrote:VTech wrote:We (the public) should not hear about claims until AFTER court as that is the DECENT thing to do, there have been plenty of innocent people wrongly accused and lets not forget that the last man hanged in England was in fact innocent !!
It's an impossible situation where you can be damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'm glad I'm not the one that has to make the decision as to wether or not to name and shame someone who may turn out to be innocent.
Im not sure that this would deter people, I would say that once a conviction is placed, it would give people more of a willing to come forward knowing they stand more chance of being believed. I am not saying my way is the only way and it should be so. I just worry about those wrongly accused and we must do everything possible to at least try and get the right result every time.0 -
Veronese68 wrote:VTech wrote:Veronese68 wrote:VTech wrote:We (the public) should not hear about claims until AFTER court as that is the DECENT thing to do, there have been plenty of innocent people wrongly accused and lets not forget that the last man hanged in England was in fact innocent !!
It's an impossible situation where you can be damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'm glad I'm not the one that has to make the decision as to wether or not to name and shame someone who may turn out to be innocent.
Im not sure that this would deter people, I would say that once a conviction is placed, it would give people more of a willing to come forward knowing they stand more chance of being believed. I am not saying my way is the only way and it should be so. I just worry about those wrongly accused and we must do everything possible to at least try and get the right result every time.
I agree, the problem is that there is no perfect answer I guess.
I think it time I explained why I feel the way I do in order to allow people to understand my point of view.
I had a house in Frankley, Just by Longbridge, Birmingham and a guy who I didn't know was wrongly accused of being a Pedo. He suffered attacks for 2 years until he was killed and his son beat to a pulp.
He had never done anything wrong other than give the local kids sweats.
As I said, I didn't know him but a family destroyed because of Chinese whispers.Living MY dream.0 -
VTech wrote:[I agree, the problem is that there is no perfect answer I guess.
I think it time I explained why I feel the way I do in order to allow people to understand my point of view.
I had a house in Frankley, Just by Longbridge, Birmingham and a guy who I didn't know was wrongly accused of being a Pedo. He suffered attacks for 2 years until he was killed and his son beat to a pulp.
He had never done anything wrong other than give the local kids sweats.
As I said, I didn't know him but a family destroyed because of Chinese whispers.
That's the worst case scenario at one extreme, the worst case at the other extreme unfortunately could have a similar outcome. Although for very different reasons.
Is the story true about a paediatrician being hounded out of his house due to the ignorant not knowing the difference between a doctor and a sex offender. Unfortunately people that get the lynch mob mentality are often not the sharpest tools in the box.0