Cyclist down Ludgate Circus

Anonymous · April 2014

Just heard this from a friend who was walking past and a bit shaken up having seen it. Desperately sad.

Lorry and cyclist

http://www.itv.com/news/london/update/2 ... h-a-lorry/

Anonymous · April 2014

http://www.itv.com/news/london/update/2 ... collision/

dulwichiron · April 2014

Looks like the old classic, left turning tipper lorry http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/c ... 35134.html

Koncordski · April 2014

Oh look, a tipper lorry, what a surprise. Thoughts go out to the family.

smokey_bacon · April 2014

Very sad. RIP.

bigmat · April 2014

Awful. One of these days it will be someone I know.

okgo · April 2014

That lorry must have been moved since the incident, its a long way from the kerb in the pics, I saw the pics and thought it must have been a head on.

RIP

Talius · April 2014

Think it was a head-on, by the eye witness account in the standard. Tragic, RIP.

fat_tail · April 2014

very sad. condolences to his family and friends. RIP.

Jamie1966 · April 2014

ah this has happened outside my office

So sad down there atm

Thoughts are with there family

MonkeyMonster · April 2014

Ah censored , went through their earlier too... RIP

notsoblue · April 2014

I know that road well. So tragic

Crouching Peeky · April 2014

How many cyclists have to die before action is taken? Is the current level seen as an acceptable attritional rate by the powers that be? I can only assume they are as lorries, tippers, coaches all continue to use the same roads as cyclists.

Heart goes out to the friends and family of the latest victim.

LiveGiantly · April 2014

very sad and just terrible!! R.I.P my fellow cyclist....

Get these lorries out of central London during peak times.....!!

gabriel959 · April 2014

RIP

jds_1981 · April 2014

Standard quotes say 'under the front' and 'both turning left'.

jonnyboy77 · April 2014

The BBC don't appear to have picked this story up (looking on their website at least).

My office isn't far from this spot, and I have ridden through there a couple of times recent when visiting the nearby Evans Cycles. Very sad that someone has lost their life, and likely someone has lost of a loved one. A stark reminder.

Jon

veronese68 · April 2014

Very sad, condolences to family and friends.

W1 · April 2014

Very sad - I ride through there everyday and had a very close call with a truck at that junction once.

The traffic is really backed-up in the evenings through there at the moment too - the light phases for the filter down to Blackfriars ramp appear to be very poorly timed and makes filtering all along that part of the route very difficult.

trailblazer777 · April 2014

I was at the crossing when this happened. The truck was turning left, the cyclist going straight on. All of us on the crossing where shouting at the truck driver to stop - it was just too late. My deepest sympathy to the family. So so sorry.

cookeeemonster · April 2014

trailblazer777 wrote:

I was at the crossing when this happened. The truck was turning left, the cyclist going straight on. All of us on the crossing where shouting at the truck driver to stop - it was just too late. My deepest sympathy to the family. So so sorry.

Sounds awful

So was the truck driver at fault? The witness statements on the standard seem a bit mixed. I dont know that junction personally so dont know how badly it's designed.

LiveGiantly · April 2014

trailblazer777 wrote:

I was at the crossing when this happened. The truck was turning left, the cyclist going straight on. All of us on the crossing where shouting at the truck driver to stop - it was just too late. My deepest sympathy to the family. So so sorry.

OH NO... :shock:

RIP again

pitchshifter · April 2014

cookeeemonster wrote:

So was the truck driver at fault? The witness statements on the standard seem a bit mixed. I dont know that junction personally so dont know how badly it's designed.

Impossible to tell. There is an ASL but there is also enough space for a lorry (positioned to the right to take the left turn) for a cyclist to go up the inside should the lights be green. Obviously we don't know if the lorry was indicating, who got to the junction first ect..

What we do know is that its tragic. RIP.

davis · April 2014

trailblazer777 wrote:

I was at the crossing when this happened. The truck was turning left, the cyclist going straight on. All of us on the crossing where shouting at the truck driver to stop - it was just too late. My deepest sympathy to the family. So so sorry.

Horrible. Regardless of fault, blame etc, that's simply very, very sad. You have my sympathy, as (obviously) does the family and friends, for what little it means.

Jamie1966 · April 2014

I noticed the everning standard has updated it news on this..

The truck driver, a 53-year-old man, stopped at the scene. He has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by careless driving and is in custody at a central London police station, a spokeswoman for City Police said.

from http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/c ... 35134.html

cookeeemonster · April 2014

Jamie1966 wrote:

I noticed the everning standard has updated it news on this..

The truck driver, a 53-year-old man, stopped at the scene. He has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by careless driving and is in custody at a central London police station, a spokeswoman for City Police said.

from http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/c ... 35134.html

yeah I saw this as well: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cy ... 053529.ece

Felt bad asking who was at fault - he obviously didn't set out to kill anyone and the relatives are going through hell at the moment

ex-pat scot · April 2014

Most drivers probably don't set out to kill anyone either.
But they occasionally do.
There are no winners, but plenty of losers every time this happens

Unfortunately a moment's inattention or poor decision has a much greater impact if from a lorry / HGV driver.

drlodge · April 2014

I can see how this kind of thing can happen, as I had a very narow escape with a car that was turning left...

I was approaching a set of traffic light (x-roads), coming up the inside where there was space (not sure if it was a white lined cycle way), I slowed as I approched the lights, then the lights turned green so I kept going. The first car at the lights wasn't indicating, he moved forwards on the green light and swung left into me as I undertook him. The car's front wing met my bars, but fortunately he saw what was happening and stopped, I managed to keep on my bike (just) and once over the lights the driver and I spoke. We were both a little shaken.

My view it was a 50/50 fault case - I should be more cautious going up the inside, he should have been indicating.

Now I won't go up the inside of anything if its moving or might move as I go passed it. If that car had been a lorry, I'd be squished flat.

LiveGiantly · April 2014

drlodge wrote:

I can see how this kind of thing can happen, as I had a very narow escape with a car that was turning left...

I was approaching a set of traffic light (x-roads), coming up the inside where there was space (not sure if it was a white lined cycle way), I slowed as I approched the lights, then the lights turned green so I kept going. The first car at the lights wasn't indicating, he moved forwards on the green light and swung left into me as I undertook him. The car's front wing met my bars, but fortunately he saw what was happening and stopped, I managed to keep on my bike (just) and once over the lights the driver and I spoke. We were both a little shaken.

My view it was a 50/50 fault case - I should be more cautious going up the inside, he should have been indicating.

Now I won't go up the inside of anything if its moving or might move as I go passed it. If that car had been a lorry, I'd be squished flat.

Close shave and I hear you on this....!

I'm very weary of junctions, lights.....pretty much everything when I'm cycling.....

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