POLL: Wyndy Milla - would the 'look' stop you buying?

Absolutely not.

You do realise that you can customise the logos and paint any way you see fit, so it's really a non-issue. Mine looks nothing like any of the ones on their site.

Ill jump on this wagon as I have just put an order in...

Who wants a bike like all the rest on the road... When mine rolls out of the paint shop there won't be anything like it on the road!

Custom geometry, custom 'other bits' and custom colour & logos make this bespoke!

And the staff are friendly, knowledgeable and nothing is too much trouble.

Recomend.

thegreatdivide wrote:

All the logo options look like a fight with a copy of Viz.

Awesome, do they do a 'pathetic sharks' version?

I think they look funky so it wouldn't put me off.

More of a reason to buy them. A breath of fresh air.

The style of the two shown would put me off but If it could look how I wanted it then perhaps that would be ok.

I am someone who tends to buy what they want regardless of its perception to others and as such the idea of buying something based on it being different is an odd concept to me.
If I felt this brand was bought by a lot of people just wanting to be different rather than because they actually liked it, that alone would put me off to be honest.

mfin wrote:

Plus, most of the people wanting them here are saying they are changing the look.

Which part of 'custom paint' are you struggling with? There is no 'look' - there is only the colours and designs chosen by the people who buy them.

Not for me, i find the whole Wyndymilla thing a bit twee and icky.

Grill wrote:

Absolutely not.

You do realise that you can customise the logos and paint any way you see fit, so it's really a non-issue. Mine looks nothing like any of the ones on their site.

Ah but if your's doesn't look like a Wyndy Milla - is it a Wyndy Milla then?

Wyndy Milla is all about the 'brand'. If yours doesn't look like one is it then in fact a different frame made by Sarto?

It's not entirely like it but this scenario does remind me of the Ship of Theseus Paradox?

mfin wrote:

Carbonator wrote:

The style of the two shown would put me off but If it could look how I wanted it then perhaps that would be ok.

Now, if Carbonator hadn't read this thread and had just seen some bikes, would he actually have known you can change the look of them?

Hey, why pick on me :shock:

I would not have had a clue, but then again I only really noticed them on a thread which mentioned the fact.
Is the fact that they are customisable not part of the branding and something that would be obvious if you were in any way interested in them?

Name makes me think of a flatulent girl called Milly.
Is there a reason that every letter is upper case apart from the 'i' on some? That annoys me too lol.

Seems almost (not that I know anything about them) made to be a Marmite brand just to get non conformists to buy them.
Kind of opposite to Emperors new clothes lol

I like the white one

Grill wrote:

Mine will look more WyndyMilla than most. It's worth noting that although the frames are made by Sarto, they use tubing and geometry that are specific to WM. Look at Giant's fab- no one would accuse a Scott of being an 'off the shelf' Giant.

WM do 'sedate' as well, you just have to specify it. I find it incredibly boring and defeatist.


This one uses their classic font with the Union Jacks (although you can specify it without):

That's my point though - that black understated frame isn't a Wyndy Milla to me. It might say it on the frame, but it doesn't 'feel' like one. Although they're not to my taste, WM have built up a strong, distinctive brand look. Why you'd want an understated WM is beyond me - there are other custom made carbon frames out there that deliver that understated look.

There's something quite British (English) I like about them, perhaps it's that they remind me of my teenage years ( and their bike names) the old teenage/unobtainable dreams about Dave Yates and Chas Roberts Dogs Bolx custom MTBs etc... I think that's what they're aiming for.

I like the individuality of it all, and the Viz thing, but I really hate the yoof spelling of the name (as I did the immature D.o.g.s.b.o.l.x. thing), that bothers my pedantic nature.
I quite like the Trumpton /Camberwick Green (whichever one it is!?) link.

There's a fine line when using the Union Jack - it can all too often be a bit 'sunburnt-beer-belly-bulldog-cheesy-tattoos-in-LePub-all-day-English-breakfast' I think.

Based on that ...I'm out.

mfin wrote:

...I think there's very few people on here who could design a bike's graphics properly, I've designed for 20 years, and whilst I know what I'm doing, I'd want a long time before I could get a load of logo-ing right on any bike. Get your average club pleb and he'd have no chance of designing something that looks good. (also, designers will look for the flow in the potential letter shapes in different fonts, with wyndymilla you have very little chance, so you'd have to design to detract attention from the name if you were to write the brand name on the bike).

Agree with that lol.
I feel I could have a very good go at it and the bike would look great, but ...........

a/ It would take ages to do (like Grill said).
b/ I feel there would probably be limitations to what they could do (in terms of what I wanted).
c/ I would probably get the bike and then think of how it could have been better.

I think design sometimes has to 'evolve' and the first draft of anything, or just doing something for the first time is always going to be a bit pants.

I am a lot less critical of someone else's work than my own, so all in all I would rather just pick someone else's design and personalise it in other ways.
I quite like the idea of picking the colour of your bike, but feel such bikes (like Trek or Rouke from memory) often look very plain and have no graphic content.

Guess I just like the mass produced by robots look rather than the imperfection of handmade stuff. The word 'handmade' on anything generally puts me off lol.