Headsets

Barrzy257
Barrzy257 Posts: 411
edited June 2013 in Road buying advice
I'm after a headset for my winter bike, something that won't mind the bed weather so much. It's a standard threadless 1 1/8 head tube, there's no cups etc in there currently as its at the sprayers. It did have some dodgy semi cartridge system, but I'm unsure of what would be best now? Also, lets not try to break the bank with it!

Cheers

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  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    What kind of bearings are needed. Campag 45/45 or Cane creek stanadrd or another. There are so many different kinds. I hope you have not thrown the old bearings away as if there are no cups then it will be hard to work out which is supposed to be in there. Also after painting the headtube will facing/reaming with the correct tool for the headset bearings needed.

    Good luck I think you will need it.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • Barrzy257
    Barrzy257 Posts: 411
    I knew I would have to face up the frame, so I am not worries about that. I have the old headset still, but surely I can just buy a whole new headset that will fit the frame?
  • Barrzy257
    Barrzy257 Posts: 411
    It is definitely just a standard traditional thread less, 1 1/8" so it's just picking which brand and model surely?
  • bondurant
    bondurant Posts: 858
    The fact that you know the steerer tube dimensions is only a small part of the story. Read again what the cycle clinic has to say. After you know the type of bearings you need yes, it is then a question of picking brand and model.
  • Barrzy257
    Barrzy257 Posts: 411
    Bondurant wrote:
    The fact that you know the steerer tube dimensions is only a small part of the story. Read again what the cycle clinic has to say. After you know the type of bearings you need yes, it is then a question of picking brand and model.
    Original headset was a can creek, so can anyone made a recommendation? Cheers
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    Which Cane Creek 10, 40 or another one in the vareity they do. What headtube OD? There are a myriad of standards.
    http://www.canecreek.com/headset-finder

    Click on don't knon year model e.t.c and you will see what I mean by a myriad of standards.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • Wheelspinner
    Wheelspinner Posts: 6,560
    :?:
    What's all the confusion about what head tube OD etc? OP wants a "standard" inch and eighth HS. I assume that means *not* integrated, or semi-integrated, just a plain old headset.

    Chris King for bling / long life.
    FSA and Cane Creek do fine however. Use plenty of grease on the bearings in assembly to keep them in good nick and they should all last ages.

    The only query would be whether you can also change the fork crown race easily or not. If you pick a different headset from the Cane Creek you have now, then you may also have to change the crown race, and that (usually) requires a specialist tool to remove.
    Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    Read the OP's first post. He needs an intergrated headset on a plain old headset. If it was a plain old headset with cup there would be no problem.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • Barrzy257
    Barrzy257 Posts: 411
    The bike was a trek 1.1 alpha from 2011, according to the evans site this was a 1 1/8" semi-integrated with semi-catridge bearing. Sorry for any confusion!
  • bondurant
    bondurant Posts: 858
    And do you have the specs of said bearings? Then you would get some guidance.
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    Barrzy257 wrote:
    The bike was a trek 1.1 alpha from 2011, according to the evans site this was a 1 1/8" semi-integrated with semi-catridge bearing. Sorry for any confusion!
    When the bearings died on my 2011 Trek 1.5 it was a case of changing the headset as I couldn't source any bearings anywhere.

    My LBS did the job and slapped in a new Cane Creek series 40 headsets with new cups and crown race, etc.

    Simple job done while I waited.
  • Barrzy257
    Barrzy257 Posts: 411
    patrickf wrote:
    Barrzy257 wrote:
    The bike was a trek 1.1 alpha from 2011, according to the evans site this was a 1 1/8" semi-integrated with semi-catridge bearing. Sorry for any confusion!
    When the bearings died on my 2011 Trek 1.5 it was a case of changing the headset as I couldn't source any bearings anywhere.

    My LBS did the job and slapped in a new Cane Creek series 40 headsets with new cups and crown race, etc.

    Simple job done while I waited.

    This is what im looking to do, just put a whole complete headset in there, thats where i think people are getting confused thinking i just want new parts when infact im happy to replace the whole set. I have been looking at the can creek 40, how has it been so far?
  • patrickf
    patrickf Posts: 536
    Barrzy257 wrote:
    patrickf wrote:
    Barrzy257 wrote:
    The bike was a trek 1.1 alpha from 2011, according to the evans site this was a 1 1/8" semi-integrated with semi-catridge bearing. Sorry for any confusion!
    When the bearings died on my 2011 Trek 1.5 it was a case of changing the headset as I couldn't source any bearings anywhere.

    My LBS did the job and slapped in a new Cane Creek series 40 headsets with new cups and crown race, etc.

    Simple job done while I waited.

    This is what im looking to do, just put a whole complete headset in there, thats where i think people are getting confused thinking i just want new parts when infact im happy to replace the whole set. I have been looking at the can creek 40, how has it been so far?
    Spot on! It's got sealed cartridge bearings so they should do much better with the weather.

    The bearings are also reasonably easy to get hold of when they do finally need replacing.

    Just make sure you clean the headset occasionally and grease it.

    Also unless you've got all the tools just get your LBS to fit it. Actually if your LBS does fit it just take it all apart and whack a bit more grease in if needed. Mine got a bit gritty when I got home and I noticed they went very easy on the grease. A quick clean & greasing later it was smooth again.

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