UniqueFire XPG or CREE XM for headlight? Which bar torch?
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http://www.dealextreme.com/p/uniquefire ... 8650-33549
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http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fandyfire- ... 8650-90609
Using a SSC P7 on the bars but one of my torches has broken so looking at new headtorches!
Also which bar light would you suggest? should I just buy another SSC P7?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire- ... 7670-36357
or
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire- ... 8650-39765
Thanks
or
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fandyfire- ... 8650-90609
Using a SSC P7 on the bars but one of my torches has broken so looking at new headtorches!
Also which bar light would you suggest? should I just buy another SSC P7?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire- ... 7670-36357
or
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire- ... 8650-39765
Thanks
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seriously? another torch thread? maybe read the others as just about everything has been covered!
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i wouldnt buy either of the first to... the xm-l t6 is the better bulb which you want but that small and higher current will probably burn it up. the other tourch has the older bulb which i wouldnt buy as there are now better options..
and the second torch you listed the same thing twice so it really doesnt matter between the two lol... but either way i wouldnt buy them i would get again the xm-l t6 equivelant.0 -
move the p7 to the head and then buy 2 of these0
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yeah sorry about starting the new thread.
Really just wanted to know the differences between the XPG and the XM, so is there a specific one you would suggest for a helmet light and one for the bars? Thanks
I find the P7 is that bit too big for the helmet and prefer its wider beam on my bars, but will have a look at the other one you suggest!
Thanks for the responses guys!0 -
The XML is the newer LED in the line up - is more efficient, and can be driven harder than the XPG.0
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diy - is the one you suggest alot better than this version as i already have one of these
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I have changed the P7 link in the top post if you would be able to give me advice on that aswel, thanks0
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The MCE is a very similar LED to the P7. Of the two you link to the P7 will output more as the current is higher (2500ma vs 2000ma) but the flip side is will not run as long.0
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ok cheers, what are your views on the helmet light?0
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No right or wrong here! Some prefer the more concentrated hot spot of the XML, some prefer more of a flood.0
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ok cheers! is there a better p7 round at the moment since i bought my old p7 last year? I had the MTE SSC P7-C but its just stopped working so need to take it in to get fixed but looking at getting a new one aswel!0
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The D bin is supposedly more efficient, but harder to find in the smaller 501 torch boidy:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire- ... 8650-503150 -
fnal question -
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire- ... 8650-55241
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http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fandyfire- ... 8650-90609
i am unsure of the difference, other than lumens and output, so is the 2nd one alot brighter?0 -
Very hard to see really.0
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sorry edited the last post as I reread where you said 'supposedly' and realised my question was a bit rubbish!!0
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Yes, the 2nd XML torch one will be brighter as is driven at higher current.0
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ok brilliant, thanks for your help0
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Just to put my 2 penny worth in........ I run this this on my lid and I can recommend it.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fandyfire- ... 6340-90127
How ever I came across this one which is very similar to the fandyfire 2130
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fandyfire- ... 8650-90607
Both the 2130 and the a10b I would like to see....if fact on paper, what IS the difference?kendoddsdadsdogsdead0 -
The A10b uses a slightly different torch body. Seen a few issues with build and heat management, but the 2130 is only slightly bigger.0
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Personally I can't see any small headed unit with a single cell driving at 2.4+A lasting very long. The 501 may not be pretty but it will have better heat sinking than the other smaller options.
Its not just about amps and LEDs you do have to consider the power source and the heat sinking available. If the head cannot sink the heat the LED output will drop.
I'd question if any of these compact 3A units will put out more light after 20 mins when compared to a 2A unit. There is lots and lots of info to show that these LEDs don't like to run hot. 18650s are not safe hot either, in addition the cheaper cells run time drops right off at high current.
If you wanted a little pocket light thats going to be on for 5 mins at a time then those fandyfires would be perfect. But if you are going to run them for an hour or more I don't reckon they will last long.
The 2100 XPGR5 at 1.5A is fine though.
If you want to run an XML at 3A it really needs to be in a multi cell unit with a large head.0