Garmin 500 HRM - Should I be worried?

Dalton
Dalton Posts: 265
edited January 2011 in Commuting chat
Hi,

I have recently purchased and started using a Garmin Edge 500 (with HRM and CAD).

Now I have got my head around using my new kit and the excellent Garmin Connect, I am slightly worried by one of the charts/ stats.

I went for a ride Thursday evening, which consisted of a favourite loop of mine - 15 miles. I have ridden this loop several times, so didn't feel like I was struggling. Actually I felt pretty good.

Anyway, I am slightly worried by one of the charts/ stats on Garmin Connect. It is showing my average heart rate as 159bpm and max heart rate as 181bpm !!

Should I be worried by these figures? They seem very high to me!

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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Everyone's heart rates are different. I wouldn't let it worry you at all.
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  • jimmypippa
    jimmypippa Posts: 1,712
    I've heard that wireless monitors can give odd readings with electrical interference around. I'm sure I've seen *literally* unbelievable figures for speed/pulse rate posted before now.
  • Dalton
    Dalton Posts: 265
    I did wonder if perhaps I had a faulty HRM?

    However, I just checked it against the Pulse function on my cross trainer and it seems to give almost exactly the same results.
  • They don't seem that high so no need to worry.
    Presumably you were giving some effort.

    Try putting the HRM on while your lying down watching something boring on TV, average is apparently 70 but if you do a lot of exercise it could be down to 40s. If its above 70 there might be a problem somewhere?
  • JamieW
    JamieW Posts: 114
    Only thing that I have found with some hrm straps is if my jersey is slightly baggy it can flap and give erroneous readings. Tends to be over first few miles until good layer of sweat under contacts
  • majormantra
    majormantra Posts: 2,094
    Doesn't sound that odd - how old are you?

    From my 44 mile club run this morning:

    Avg HR: 156 bpm
    Max HR: 188 bpm

    I'm 21 btw.
  • mkirby
    mkirby Posts: 365
    edited January 2011
    my max heart rate is in the 200's dont worry about it. 170 -182 is normal effort range for me, everyone is built differently.
  • Dalton
    Dalton Posts: 265
    I am 36 and unfit at the moment! Only been back on the bike a couple of weeks.

    Resting Heart Rate is below 70.

    Looks like I have no need to worry then. Just alarmed me how high the figures were, never used HRM before.
  • gb155
    gb155 Posts: 2,048
    My stats are from one end to the other

    my

    RHR is 43 BPM

    My Average, Average is 145BPM

    and my average, max reading is 176BPM
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    My resting HR is around 52 but when I go for a jog (don't wear my HRM when cycling) I probably average around 155 but can get up to 195ish.
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Everyone's different but those figures don't look particularly out of the ordinary or alarming
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  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    I'm 46

    RHR 60-ish
    Max HR 183

    On my 30-mile round trip commute
    Avg HR 155
    Max HR 175

    My Garmin HRM can throw a wobbly - normally early in the ride - I'm guessing it's down to static. Don't think there's anything to worry about in your numbers (unless you're 80 or something...)
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  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    If you are worried go see your Doctor, but those figures look normal. I did the same thing when I got HRM for first time, it didn't help that many people in my office said that's far too high when hitting 190+bpm. Doctor told me that providing there was a reason for the rate being high (e.g. Riding a bike hard up hill) and that the rate came straight back down again when you stop then there was nothing to worry about. On the other hand if it jumped up suddenly for no reason or failed to return to normal when stopping exercising then I had to go back and see him urgently.

    The best stat I have in regard to cycling and HR is that when I started my resting HR first thing in the morning was around 85bpm now it's around 60-65bpm. Average BPM and Max BPM whilst commuting haven't changed as I still ride as hard as I can.....
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    OT, but are the Garmin 500 users pleased they bought it? I'm agonising over buying one as a training aid for the turbo and when out on the road. £200 is a lot of money, though, so I'm looking at a Cateye Strada Cadence and buying a watch-based HRM. I'm to-ing and fro-ing on this.
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  • iPete
    iPete Posts: 6,076
    Looks normal to me!

    I'm 25, rest around the mid 50s to low 60s and out for a tough run can see the mid 190s but tend to operate around 175 on a long run, its a bit lower on the bike.
  • Dalton
    Dalton Posts: 265
    cjcp wrote:
    OT, but are the Garmin 500 users pleased they bought it? I'm agonising over buying one as a training aid for the turbo and when out on the road. £200 is a lot of money, though, so I'm looking at a Cateye Strada Cadence and buying a watch-based HRM. I'm to-ing and fro-ing on this.

    Absolutely delighted with mine so far!!

    I agonised for ages before buying mine, as like you say it is a lot of money.

    Advantages for me are everything I need in one device and Garmin Connect website - which is simply fantastic. Gives you every single bit of data you could need to analyse your ride.

    I went for the 500 as I have no need for 'Sat Nav' on my bike an the 705 and 800 are larger units.

    I can honestly say it has added a new dimension to my rides and I always look forward to seeing how I have performed compared to last time.

    Hope this helps.
  • TiBoy
    TiBoy Posts: 366
    Same as everyone else, my max is in the early 200's but my Garmin won't go above 200 when setting the zones, I did check with my GP and she said that it's fine as long as it comes down quite quickly (within a couple of mins) when you stop pushing yourself.

    Too much knowledge can be worrying sometimes.
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  • Lancslad
    Lancslad Posts: 307
    I managed to max out at 200bpm sprinting at the end of a half marathon last year. I generally sit between 150 - 180 though. Dont wear it on the bike but maybe I should might be easier to spot when i'm under the weather.
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,439
    cjcp wrote:
    OT, but are the Garmin 500 users pleased they bought it? I'm agonising over buying one as a training aid for the turbo and when out on the road. £200 is a lot of money, though, so I'm looking at a Cateye Strada Cadence and buying a watch-based HRM. I'm to-ing and fro-ing on this.

    I'm thinking a polar cs200 for £90 it's got all the gubbins bar the gps. I want a garmin but if I'm paying £200 I might as well pay £400 and get the nav

    EDIT;

    On topic 189 seems fine, my max is just over 200 i've not been out on the road with it yet but I think any sort of hill would have it up in the 190s
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    prawny wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    OT, but are the Garmin 500 users pleased they bought it? I'm agonising over buying one as a training aid for the turbo and when out on the road. £200 is a lot of money, though, so I'm looking at a Cateye Strada Cadence and buying a watch-based HRM. I'm to-ing and fro-ing on this.

    I'm thinking a polar cs200 for £90 it's got all the gubbins bar the gps. I want a garmin but if I'm paying £200 I might as well pay £400 and get the nav

    EDIT;

    On topic 189 seems fine, my max is just over 200 i've not been out on the road with it yet but I think any sort of hill would have it up in the 190s

    The CS200 Cad is the other one I'm looking at, but the reviews are mixed, so I'm going to give it a miss; already had problems with a Timex HRM, so I'm not risking more problems.

    @Dalton - thanks very much for the info.
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,439
    Ah, I'd not got that far, I'm seeing how I go with the 9.99 tesco job before I commit any proper money to it.
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  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Sketchley wrote:
    If you are worried go see your Doctor, but those figures look normal. I did the same thing when I got HRM for first time, it didn't help that many people in my office said that's far too high when hitting 190+bpm. Doctor told me that providing there was a reason for the rate being high (e.g. Riding a bike hard up hill) and that the rate came straight back down again when you stop then there was nothing to worry about. On the other hand if it jumped up suddenly for no reason or failed to return to normal when stopping exercising then I had to go back and see him urgently.

    The best stat I have in regard to cycling and HR is that when I started my resting HR first thing in the morning was around 85bpm now it's around 60-65bpm. Average BPM and Max BPM whilst commuting haven't changed as I still ride as hard as I can.....

    Checked my resting HR this morning for first time in a while it was 52bpm!
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    cjcp wrote:
    prawny wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    OT, but are the Garmin 500 users pleased they bought it? I'm agonising over buying one as a training aid for the turbo and when out on the road. £200 is a lot of money, though, so I'm looking at a Cateye Strada Cadence and buying a watch-based HRM. I'm to-ing and fro-ing on this.

    I'm thinking a polar cs200 for £90 it's got all the gubbins bar the gps. I want a garmin but if I'm paying £200 I might as well pay £400 and get the nav

    EDIT;

    On topic 189 seems fine, my max is just over 200 i've not been out on the road with it yet but I think any sort of hill would have it up in the 190s

    The CS200 Cad is the other one I'm looking at, but the reviews are mixed, so I'm going to give it a miss; already had problems with a Timex HRM, so I'm not risking more problems.

    @Dalton - thanks very much for the info.
    That's the system I had. It's ok but not great. Only 7 rides get stored as history and it's difficult to get the data off the thing. The cadence sensors are flimsy. I broke two before I gave up. (Other problems are sensor battery life and replacement, chest strap reception not being brilliant)

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  • Butterd2
    Butterd2 Posts: 937
    cjcp wrote:
    OT, but are the Garmin 500 users pleased they bought it? I'm agonising over buying one as a training aid for the turbo and when out on the road. £200 is a lot of money, though, so I'm looking at a Cateye Strada Cadence and buying a watch-based HRM. I'm to-ing and fro-ing on this.

    For an extra £25 I would go for the 705 and then you have the Nav if you ever need it. You do not need to buy maps, I use the Open Source Maps which are great and free!

    Agree Garmin Connect is an excellent site, particularly the "Player" which run through your ride on Google maps showing all your stats as it goes.

    As for Heart Rates my 49 mile run on Sunday showed 148 average and max 172. My absolute max is just over 180 and I'm 40. Your stats look fine.
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  • cambs
    cambs Posts: 235
    wrote:
    I'm thinking a polar cs200 for £90 it's got all the gubbins bar the gps. I want a garmin but if I'm paying £200 I might as well pay £400 and get the nav

    The CS200 Cad is the other one I'm looking at, but the reviews are mixed, so I'm going to give it a miss; already had problems with a Timex HRM, so I'm not risking more problems.

    I've had a problem develop in 2 Polar 200 units , some kind of short-circuit that drains the battery v quickly. The first was replaced under warranty, the second i have to l ive with (remove the battery after every ride).
    Also, your data is stored in the Polar website and its difficult to get it out again - you're locked in to their software, really.

    Just bought a Garmin 800, its very good and supported by third party training apps as well as the GarminConnect website.

    EDIT: oh yeah, to the OP, your HR is similar to mine.
  • Dalton
    Dalton Posts: 265
    Thank you to everyone who has replied r/e feedback on HRM figures.

    I no longer feel concerned about them. My HR quickly returns to normal after my rides.

    As for the Edge 500, I love mine more every day! Not sure how I lived without it to be honest.

    I looked at the other options - Polar/ Cateye. For me the Garmin is far more user friendly. Even in how simple it is to mount onto the bike, genius!

    It is certainly encouraging me to get out on my bikes more, which is what it's about after all.
  • lastant
    lastant Posts: 526
    Apologies for the cheeky bump, but I'm currently looking to sell a Suunto t3c HRM in the Classifieds section (having since got a Garmin 305, 'thanks' to a desire to get back into running...!).

    Sorry if this isn't the done thing, and feel free to delete it if so!
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