Formula brakes, which are they please ?

weeksy59
weeksy59 Posts: 2,606
edited September 2010 in MTB workshop & tech
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Ordering some new stoppers today and debating 5-6 sets.

What are the model of these ?

I'm torn at the moment between
M665
M775
Formula Oro bianco
Hope M4
Hope mini.

Any advice/thoughts welcome on the above.

the M665 new on Ribble is looking good... but have an offer in on some M775's on here... and 3-4 pairs of various on ebay being watched.

Comments

  • Andy!
    Andy! Posts: 433
    what about Elixr r?
  • Id go Formula all the way - build quality seems a lot better than some others.

    The ORO is outdated now - go for some R1s to add to the mix
  • weeksy59
    weeksy59 Posts: 2,606
    Andy! wrote:
    what about Elixr r?

    TBH i'm tainted from Avids due to the lever travel on all the Juicy 3/5's i've tried... also the sodding ridiculous bleeding system,not to mention the rubbishy pad system LOL.

    Been there, done them and they've never felt great.

    Only other hydraulics i've tired are M775's which were simply astounding and Hope C2 which felt brillant if a little basic... but still preferred both to the Juicys.
  • weeksy59
    weeksy59 Posts: 2,606
    Id go Formula all the way - build quality seems a lot better than some others.

    The ORO is outdated now - go for some R1s to add to the mix

    Too much money i'm afriad.

    Doesn't necessarily need to be the bestest newest it..

    I'm actually watching a Hope C2 :) that must be a good few years old.
  • jairaj
    jairaj Posts: 3,009
    I have a set of m775 brakes and highly recommend them. Lots of stopping power and lots of modulation. Reliability has been good, I've been running 2 sets and the older one is over 2 years old now. Apart from changing worn brake pads and cleaning a sticky piston I have not had to touch them at all. Bleeding was very straight forward, I paid loads of money for the Shimano bleed kit, but you really don't need to for these brakes.

    What's the price difference between the m665 and m775? If you can save a few £ I'd go for the m665 its pretty much the same brake.
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    edited September 2010
    Weeksy - the Elixir is defo a step up from the Juicy range - they've improved it all round.
  • weeksy59 wrote:
    Andy! wrote:
    what about Elixr r?

    TBH i'm tainted from Avids due to the lever travel on all the Juicy 3/5's i've tried... also the sodding ridiculous bleeding system,not to mention the rubbishy pad system LOL.

    Been there, done them and they've never felt great.

    Only other hydraulics i've tired are M775's which were simply astounding and Hope C2 which felt brillant if a little basic... but still preferred both to the Juicys.

    They've fixed all of these, every set of elixirs i've tried have been faultless.

    Lever travel setable to taste (depending on model)
    Bleed system is the same, but works okay due to different routing.
    Now got top-loading pads.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    weeksy59 wrote:
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    Ordering some new stoppers today and debating 5-6 sets.

    What are the model of these ?

    one of the first that they made.

    looks like they have the FS standard mounts.

    why?
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • weeksy59
    weeksy59 Posts: 2,606
    Tehy were on ebay and i was watching them along with several other sets.

    Sold for £52 while i was in the gym
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    weeksy59 wrote:
    Tehy were on ebay and i was watching them along with several other sets.

    Sold for £52 while i was in the gym

    not useable really. just as well that they went.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • weeksy59
    weeksy59 Posts: 2,606
    nicklouse wrote:
    weeksy59 wrote:
    Tehy were on ebay and i was watching them along with several other sets.

    Sold for £52 while i was in the gym

    not useable really. just as well that they went.

    That's why i check on here before buying random things :) as no-one said "they're geat,buy them" i never.

    Blokey on here with the M775's seems to have gone quiet... i thought we may strike a deal but not sure now lol.

    Couple of sets on Ebay but none with sensible BIN's.
  • My personal tasete is go Formulae, or any of the others bar hopes.

    I think Hope make awsome headsets, hubs and bearing parts and so on, But i feel there brakes just aren't as good as the rest in terms of ultimate stopping power and pure reliability.

    Haven't heard personally yet of many people complaining about the Formulae brakes, and heard alot of good about SLX brakes at the moment.
  • weeksy59
    weeksy59 Posts: 2,606
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT


    I'm going to be out of the country for a week when both end LOL. But i could arange for a mate to do the paypal stuff or do over there myself.

    What's a good/bad price to be paying for either lads ?
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    Oros might be old but they're great value, fantastic brakes...
    Uncompromising extremist
  • weeksy59
    weeksy59 Posts: 2,606
    Theres a pair of M775's on here for £110 (hopefully £100) without rotors (his are CL's).

    rubbish thing is.. none of the items are buy it now or i'd have clicked the button 2 hours ago lol
  • cobba
    cobba Posts: 282
    weeksy59 wrote:
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    What are the model of these ?

    Formula Evoluzione there was three models 98, 99 and 9.5
    I think they were made from 1998 to 2001, Formula still sells spares for them.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    i thought they were pre the Evo as they have the manual adjust. also the levers look early.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • neninja
    neninja Posts: 424
    Oro's are still a decent brake - my k18's have been faultless

    I'd try and get a set of Formula RX
  • dan1502
    dan1502 Posts: 568
    There were some RXs on here or singletrack the other day and they were almost new. White with black levers and blue caliper caps. Try a search to see if still available.
    Santa Cruz Tallboy
  • dan1502
    dan1502 Posts: 568
    In fact I have his email address if you want me to pm it to you as I considered them myself but decided to stick with what I have.
    Santa Cruz Tallboy
  • weeksy59
    weeksy59 Posts: 2,606
    dan1502 wrote:
    There were some RXs on here or singletrack the other day and they were almost new. White with black levers and blue caliper caps. Try a search to see if still available.

    How much were they ?
  • cobba
    cobba Posts: 282
    nicklouse wrote:
    i thought they were pre the Evo as they have the manual adjust. also the levers look early.
    I'm fairly sure that its the 98 model.

    Some Stuff I found:
    98 Evoluzione Photos
    The catalogue in the background of the first photo shows the brake with a different sticker on it.

    98, 99 & 9.5 Evoluzione Technical Information Sheet
    The Info Sheet mentions the calliper with adjustable pistons on page 5 and it shows the differences on the levers of the different models.

    Evoluzione & Parts
  • weeksy59
    weeksy59 Posts: 2,606
    Thanks lads,

    Ended up buying a set of Shimano XT M775's from for sale section on here.

    One of the lads has them on his cube and they're simply brilliant :)

    Advert for a set of juicy 3's will be posted later today lol.