BP and the Yanks

woodnut · July 2010

Watching Newsnight.......I know that BP have made a right bollox of things but these US politicians make me hurl.

One word, Bhopal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

RupertCommunicator · July 2010

Obama is being a prick about this. Considering the way the UK backs the US to the hilt, they've been grade A cünts about this BP thing and prior to that about the Falklands.

As far as I'm concerned, they can fück off. China will be the superpower soon anyway so best start kissing up to them.

Anonymous · July 2010

BP have been wakners in this as well though. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other, really.

Anonymous · July 2010

hm, isnt this the kind of thing splott boy would post, where is he this evening?

Anonymous · July 2010

Oh, didn't you hear? After the Jews left his B&B, he got a load of Satanists, They sacrificed him.

Where are my stabilisers? · July 2010

BP have never said that they wouldn't pay for the clean up - Obama hasn't seemed to have heared this, the way he's talking, anyone would think that BP have been refusing to pay for the situation! :? He's turning out to be a right dick if you ask me.

I don't remember the Prime Minister getting involved and blaming the US, when a US oil major dumped a load of crude oil all over the Pembrokeshire coast :roll:

Now the US has given permission for Exxon to put a bit in for BP (should it get into real trouble) to create a whopping big US oil giant... Or whatever is bigger than the giant Exxon already is!

How very convenient!

Sorry, bit of a rant there.

Anonymous · July 2010

The spill on the Pembrokeshire coast was nothing compared to this though.
I think the anger comes because there were no contingency plans made for such a catastrophic event.
Also, the head of BP didn't exactly put himself across in a particularly well thought out way.

IcarusGreen · July 2010

has anyone noticed that:

A - the rig was an american rig that was rented.

B - 95% of workers on the rig were american

C - The part that failed was an american manufactured part

Basically everything was american except for the the company paying for the lease and then contracting out the work. Then BP takes all the blame and pays for everything without any other company stepping in and saying, "erm, it was out part that failed" or "20% of the lease was an american company".

Yes BP were the ones making the vast majority of the money but it sucks that they are being held 'solely' responsible because their the only non american company involved.

Anonymous · July 2010

Same in any inductry though. If a part fails, it's because of who is responsible for it.
For example, if a (let's say) Rear mech develops a fault due to bad manufacture, it would be Sachs, Campag or Shimano that are responsible, not XYZ or Mitsubishi etc machine tools.

Northwind · July 2010

BP isn't a "british company", it's a multinational, same as pretty much every other company of its size.

Obama's taken a strong line on them but I don't think it's because they're british. He's got a slightly green agenda which in the US means taking on oil dependance, and now he's got a genuine oil disaster to work with. He'd be a fool not to take that and run with it. I don't think it makes any difference what oil company it is really.

Gazlar · July 2010

Bloody Ungrateful Yanks

A few years ago, if they wanted oil they had to go on an expensive raid of some middle easten country to get their hands on it. BP delivers it almost to their door and they start complaining

Tartanyak · July 2010

http://www.bp.com/extendedsectiongeneri ... Id=7019612

BP is 1% more UK-ish than US-ish.

Make of this, what you will.

thekickingmule · July 2010

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Same in any inductry though. If a part fails, it's because of who is responsible for it.
For example, if a (let's say) Rear mech develops a fault due to bad manufacture, it would be Sachs, Campag or Shimano that are responsible, not XYZ or Mitsubishi etc machine tools.

I see what you're saying, but I'd look at it in a different way.

Lets compare BP hiring in a rig, which then hired in a drill to Giant, who uses a Shimano Casette to run a SRAM chain. If the chain snaps, SRAM are to blame, not Giant.

I'm surprised that BP have taken this much of a beating. They're now selling off £30billion worth of assetts to cover the cost of the cleanup. I can't help but think there is a conspiracy that a full American company will come and take them over in the next few years.

spongtastic · July 2010

Read more Chomsky and you'll realise this is a pretty minor event in the whole scheme of things.

And China is already more powerful than America, it just doesn't use it's military overseas. It just buys everything instead.

pte1643 · July 2010

BP owned rig... So it could be argued that it's "technically" British owned.

But American managed, and operated.

American C-o-c-k up is how I see it.

It's been mentioned about the UK backing the Yanks in everything.

Cameron needs to tell Obama that if they aren't at least going to share some of the responsiblity/bill for clean up then he can sort his own bloody war out in Afghanistan.

Northwind · July 2010

pte1643 wrote:

Cameron needs to tell Obama that if they aren't at least going to share some of the responsiblity/bill for clean up then he can sort his own bloody war out in Afghanistan.

If Obama was demanding the UK pay for the cleanup you might have a point :?

RupertCommunicator · July 2010

The UK government should demand that the US taxpayer foots the bill for 10 years of us being in Afghanistan, after all, New York isn't in the UK...

butcher of bakersfield · July 2010

As above - the UK isn't getting stung on this. BP is. Which happens to be owned by several countries across the world (America having a pretty much equal share to the UK).

Obama however, is being a dick. For what reasons I do not know.

Anonymous · July 2010

thekickingmule wrote:

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Same in any inductry though. If a part fails, it's because of who is responsible for it.
For example, if a (let's say) Rear mech develops a fault due to bad manufacture, it would be Sachs, Campag or Shimano that are responsible, not XYZ or Mitsubishi etc machine tools.

I see what you're saying, but I'd look at it in a different way.

Lets compare BP hiring in a rig, which then hired in a drill to Giant, who uses a Shimano Casette to run a SRAM chain. If the chain snaps, SRAM are to blame, not Giant.

That's basically what I was trying to explain.

Where are my stabilisers? · July 2010

Yes, the Pembrokeshire spill was a lot less but it still had a massive impact on the local area. The same impacts - dead wildlife, tourism, fishing etc. Don't underesitmate the impact just because the spill was smaller.

The problem is with the oil industry as a whole, but for reasons of economic gain, Obama decided to tell his country that it was a "British" issue and that this "British" company will pay. He made it a personal issue with Britain - which was unfair because we all know how bad American companies have behaved all over the world.

The man is a hypocrit and that is my only issue with the whole thing!

Northwind · July 2010

Where are my stabilisers? wrote:

Obama decided to tell his country that it was a "British" issue and that this "British" company will pay. He made it a personal issue with Britain

IMO this is total, total rubbish. But hey, you're entitled to it.

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