What I have learnt today
roswell
Posts: 17
Hi guys,
As a newbie just wanted to share a couple of tips/ comments from my ride today at Swinley which was my first “winter” ride and was fantastic. It was my first ride on my own and whilst I missed the usual banter and pointers I had a great time splashing through puddles, ploughing through the mud and attacking the fantastic trails
. The things I have learnt today are:
Tree roots are always bad but expecially so when wet and taken slowly! I have the bruises to prove it. I had barely made it out of the carpark - could have been very embarrassing if there were more people about! :roll:
Mud is fun, though wet, cold socks are not.
Don’t eat too big a breakfast before going out as it can make you feel sick!
Invest in a pair of glasses to prevent mud, flies, cold air etc going into your eyes – even a cheap pair of safety glasses from a diy store for a couple of quid.
Long fingered gloves should be used for cold days so you can actually feel your hands.
I can now see the point of knee warmers – before today I thought they were for big girls!
What have you learnt today?
Cheers
R
As a newbie just wanted to share a couple of tips/ comments from my ride today at Swinley which was my first “winter” ride and was fantastic. It was my first ride on my own and whilst I missed the usual banter and pointers I had a great time splashing through puddles, ploughing through the mud and attacking the fantastic trails
. The things I have learnt today are:Tree roots are always bad but expecially so when wet and taken slowly! I have the bruises to prove it. I had barely made it out of the carpark - could have been very embarrassing if there were more people about! :roll:
Mud is fun, though wet, cold socks are not.
Don’t eat too big a breakfast before going out as it can make you feel sick!
Invest in a pair of glasses to prevent mud, flies, cold air etc going into your eyes – even a cheap pair of safety glasses from a diy store for a couple of quid.
Long fingered gloves should be used for cold days so you can actually feel your hands.
I can now see the point of knee warmers – before today I thought they were for big girls!
What have you learnt today?
Cheers
R
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I did the last 2 miles of follow the dog at Cannock today with absolutely no brakes and crashed on probably the easiest section and am now in much pain!!!!
On One Inbred SS
LOL - This was the first thing I learned on my first trail. I managed to take a dive twice in a few minutes because I didn't attack with speed, it's usually the speed which carries you through, but of course I didn't know that until I'd injured my arm and my pride!!
I also once learned never to get disturbed when doing a job on the bike, because it was only when I pulled hard on my bar to mount a high kerb that I realised I had forgotten to fasten a QR front wheel (ouch!!!).
pinkbike
Blurring the line between bravery and stupidity since 1986!
ive learnt a wet wooden bridge offers no grip, do not brake on it! (didnt fall tho)
it was a good idea to take my waterproofs with me afterall
oh and i learnt that taking a spare inertube pays off
on my first ever ride i was pushing, today i whipped the wheel off and changed the tube in minutes
overall a decent day
My mate forgot to check his brakes at Cannock once, we were stood at the bottom of the Chainslapper waiting for him to come down, could hear this screeching, then caught sight of him moving really slowly.
When he eventually reached us, his front brake was nearly solidly locked on. His brake pads had worn out on the previous section, so when he tried to lose some speed on the downhill he was scraping metal on metal, the brakes either overheated, or the pistons came out too far and didn't retract.
Took some time to free his disc from the caliper so we could sort it out!
"As I said last time, it won't happen again."
Well its defo taught me a lesson!!, the ironic thing is that it was the first ever time i have carried a first aid kit on a trip, i reckon i must have subconsiously known i was gonna crash!!
On One Inbred SS
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Current ride - Yeti ASR 5a X0
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss9/ ... c611a8.jpg
Also my fitness for uphills is rubbish but biking with others pushes you and continental speed kings can get scary when going downhill in wet mud.
And finally cleaning a white 09 Fury with half a field/forest/track takes a while
RockingDad
1992 Raleigh Equipe
eg shall i do the skinny board walk or not, yes , no,yes,go on then, doh !
make a desission an stick to it
Today I learned there are some nice bike rides around my area which I'm going to tackle at the weekend.
must fit the crud catchers, the half that wasn't on the bike was up my back I think
Cheers for showing me the trail, great ride, must do that again soon.
RockingDad
1992 Raleigh Equipe
I've bought a new bike....ouch - result
Can I buy a new bike?...No - no result
Sealskinz are your friends. Invest! Eat a big breakfast, but make sure you give it at least an hour to settle, and when you do start riding, warm up properly, don't go hell for leather right at the start of your ride!
Wise.
As a mountainbiker, you really ought to be wearing full finger gloves all year round. They give much more protection to your hands in the effect of a full or a scuff with a tree.
If you REALLY want to keep your hands warm don't go and buy the thickest pair of gloves you can find, they will make your hands colder once you start having to hold on to the bars extra tight through the thickness of the material.
Instead, get a cheap pair of normal full finger gloves one size too large and a pair of Sealskinz glove liners. This layering allows gives your hands room, keeps them warm and toasty and if you start losing sensation, you can remove the liners and just run the gloves. Layers are always better than one thick garment.
That's not right, on a decent sized root you can still find the tyre finds it easier to slide out to either side than to go over it, regardless of how straight you hit it.
You will always pass safely over a root hit square on unless you make a significant braking or steering input.
The danger in roots is posed roots perpendicular the direction of travel on corners, and roots diagonal to the direction of travel in braking zones. These are the ones that need respect, care and skill.
Even wet offcamber webs of roots can be safely traversed with sufficient skill and confidence.
Another thing I have learnt is to take the thumbshifter that broke off out of your pocket before it goes in the washing machine...
MTB
NEW Cross
Track/Grass Track/Winter bike
Go on then, let's hear what Newton had to say about it...
If the force needed to deflect the wheel is less than the force needed to go over the root, it'll deflect. Simple as that. Your wheel will take the route of least resistance, which isn't always directly over. This is most obvious if you haven't managed to unweight or pop the wheel for whatever reason (lapse of skill or judgement, or you're riding multiple roots so can't treat each one as a seperate feature)
2 things can happen here- one is that the contact knocks your wheel squint and so introduces an involuntary steering input, the other is just that the wheel breaks traction and slides out from under you.
I have a feeling that what you're doing here is assuming that just because you, with your substantial experience, never have a problem with this, that nobody else ever does.
If you approach a root fearing it, you WILL slide. You will be tense, your body position and language will be poor and you'll be dragging the brakes slightly
If you approach a root, any root, square on, faster the better frankly, knowing that you are going straight over the top of it, you'll be loose on the bike with a good body position with the right body language to ride straight over it.
Roots are grippy objects, if you just give the tyres a chance.
A short visual lesson in how to, and how not to:
http://www.pinkbike.com/video/57338/
i always struggle on them, normally results in a mate behind me nearly crashing in to me
Did you link the wrong video there? It's good but it doesn't show any "how to" go over square roots that I can see, though it shows a couple of "how not to" over angled ones
Are you talking mainly about smaller roots here? I totally agree with what you're saying on the smaller stuff in your video but high roots, particularily once it gets to more than your fork travel can deal with, I don't think the same applies.
The 1-3" tall sort. Any bigger than that and they tend to hold the bark and grip very well indeed.
In that video, everyone who hit the root at the top at an angle slid. Everyone who squared it up stuck.