Benefits of changing a stem

incog24
incog24 Posts: 549
edited May 2009 in Workshop
I noticed today that the stock giant stem on my tcr advanced 3 is actually pretty flexy. Would there be any particular benefit in swapping it for a new stem? Does strength actually increase noticeably with price or just weight drop? And would this drastically effect the comfort of the ride for my elbow/wrists etc?
Racing for Fluid Fin Race Team in 2012 - www.fluidfin.co.uk

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Biggest thing is to get the length / drop right.

    Then stems get stronger/lighter as you start to go upwards.

    A man once said (actually it was Gary Bontrager) -

    Strong, Light, Cheap. Pick two.
  • incog24
    incog24 Posts: 549
    I don't mind paying more for an improved product, I'm more interested in whether it would actually make a difference. Would the increased stiffness by noticed when you're really levering the bike? The current sizing set up is fine, so choosing a size isn't an issue really.
    Racing for Fluid Fin Race Team in 2012 - www.fluidfin.co.uk
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    I notice it a lot but I'm quite 'powerfully' built in the upper body. I am a lot more confident with a stiff length than with a flexy one, especially when going down. I can also pull really hard when the going gets really frantic.


    Thomson, 3T and FSA are ones I would recommend...

    However other brands seem to be well received too.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Pro stems are some of the stiffest
    I like bikes...

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Pro stems are some of the stiffest

    Especially these ones -


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  • bill57
    bill57 Posts: 454
    NapoleonD wrote:
    A man once said (actually it was Gary Bontrager)
    Sure it wasn't Keith Fisher?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    bill57 wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    A man once said (actually it was Gary Bontrager)
    Sure it wasn't Keith Fisher?

    Nope, I'm not sure it wasn't...
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    NapoleonD wrote:
    bill57 wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    A man once said (actually it was Gary Bontrager)
    Sure it wasn't Keith Fisher?

    Nope, I'm not sure it wasn't...

    It's older than Bontrager
    I like bikes...

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    http://bontrager.com/history/a-brief-history/en

    This is where I read it, it says he invented it.

    I suppose it's a bit like Dr. Evil's dad claiming to have invented the question mark or my Dad claiming to have invented the trick where you throw a pretend ball and he catches it in a paper bag, clicking it with his fingers to make it seem realistic :D
  • balthazar
    balthazar Posts: 1,565
    NapoleonD wrote:
    A man once said (actually it was Gary Bontrager) -

    Strong, Light, Cheap. Pick two.

    It pops up periodically here, always attributed to somebody else.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_triangle

    I think I recall Tom Klein saying something similar..
  • bill57
    bill57 Posts: 454
    Keith Bontrager
    Gary Fisher
    I think you mixed them up........... :wink: .
  • k-dog
    k-dog Posts: 1,652
    Yes, you would probably notice the difference.

    Might be worth going the whole hog and getting OS bars too - if your bars are regular sized at the moment.

    Just makes the whole front end feel a bit more solid.
    I'm left handed, if that matters.
  • incog24
    incog24 Posts: 549
    Cheers k-dog. I've got oversized bars already, so it would just be the stem. Do you have any thoughts on the comfort issue?
    Racing for Fluid Fin Race Team in 2012 - www.fluidfin.co.uk
  • k-dog
    k-dog Posts: 1,652
    I don't think it would make much difference to the comfort - I've not noticed any increase in vibrations or anything with a stiffer setup.

    A stiff carbon stem could smooth things out a little too - although they're a lot more expensive.

    The main thing for comfort is making sure you have the right length and rise.
    I'm left handed, if that matters.
  • crankycrank
    crankycrank Posts: 1,830
    Personally I have noticed a big difference in comfort going from a less rigid stem to a fairly stiff one (Deda Newton) which I find too stiff and jarring although the sensation of extra power from a rigid setup is a bit addictive. I'm also 50yrs and my hands and arms don't take abuse as well as when I was younger but there is definately a difference in shock absorption. Of course your bars can contribute to comfort/stiffness as well.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Geith BonCarrieFisher
  • fuzzynavel
    fuzzynavel Posts: 718
    NapoleonD wrote:

    I am a lot more confident with a stiff length than with a flexy one, especially when going down. I can also pull really hard when the going gets really frantic.


    Are you still talking about bikes or did your mind wander for a moment there?
    17 Stone down to 12.5 now raring to get back on the bike!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    I'm surprised how long it took for someone to comment...
  • on-yer-bike
    on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    NapoleonD wrote:
    I notice it a lot but I'm quite 'powerfully' built in the upper body. I am a lot more confident with a stiff length than with a flexy one, especially when going down. I can also pull really hard when the going gets really frantic.


    Thomson, 3T and FSA are ones I would recommend...

    However other brands seem to be well received too.

    I'm sure your partner agrees.
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