stiffee or handjob XD
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basically i'm building up a hardcore trail bike just for messing around local woods on no jumps or big drops i've an orange msisle and identiti 666x for that but my bike question is which of the following to have
Frame Cove Stiffee
Forks Marzocchi Shiver
Brakes Hayes trail carbons
hubs pro2
Rims DT SWiss 5.1
Cranks SLX
f Mech SLX
R mech XT
shifters SLX
Bars easton havoc
Stem easton vice
Headset Chis King
Pedals DMR V8
Cassette Saint
OR for very similar money
Frame Cove handjob
Forks Marzocchi shiver's
Brakes Hayes stroker carbon's
Hub's Pro2
Rims Dt Swiss 5.1's
Cranks XT
F Mech XTR
R Mech XTR
Shifters XTR
Headset Chris King
Bars easton EA70
Stem Easton Vice
Cassette XT
for general trail use which would be better?
Frame Cove Stiffee
Forks Marzocchi Shiver
Brakes Hayes trail carbons
hubs pro2
Rims DT SWiss 5.1
Cranks SLX
f Mech SLX
R mech XT
shifters SLX
Bars easton havoc
Stem easton vice
Headset Chis King
Pedals DMR V8
Cassette Saint
OR for very similar money
Frame Cove handjob
Forks Marzocchi shiver's
Brakes Hayes stroker carbon's
Hub's Pro2
Rims Dt Swiss 5.1's
Cranks XT
F Mech XTR
R Mech XTR
Shifters XTR
Headset Chris King
Bars easton EA70
Stem Easton Vice
Cassette XT
for general trail use which would be better?
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My no 1 choice for a general mess around do anything bike would probably be an SC Chameleon..."Melancholy is incompatible with bicycling." ~James E. Starrs0
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yeah but they are so common i guess part of me would love something a little bit different plus i've ridden both a handjob, stiffee and chameleon and both cove's stood head and shoulders above the santa cruz, both cove's were built with an AM spec0
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Pardon my ignorance, but what travel are the shivers?
The handjob runs nice at about 100, whilst the stiffee is suited to something longer, around 140mm.
The handjobs probably more of an XC machine too, so it depends what you mean by "messing around"
huge all day rides? handjob
hard hitting small loops? stiffee
Just my opinion.What We Achieve In Life, Echoes In Eternity0 -
it will be general all day rides nothing huge as i said i've got another few bikes for that i guess its gonna be an xc/lLIGHT AM machine
the shivers run at 120mm so in the middle of both frames capabilities, the handjob is rated to 130mm and stiffee for whatever i think lol0 -
Well then, looks like the handjob's about right then.
I take it you don't fancy a full sus then? Might push your budget, but will take the sting out of any all day epics you've got planned.What We Achieve In Life, Echoes In Eternity0 -
i've considered a full suss but can't justify it not really as this bike will be used for commuting as well as trail duties a full suss would slow me down plus i love hardtails always have i'll be entering some 24h events so i thought the more xc oreintated hand job would be perfect plus the lower frame cost leaves me that little bit more to get the xtr shadow mech, shifters and f mech0
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Seems to me like you've made your mind up then mateWhat We Achieve In Life, Echoes In Eternity0
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it would appear that way i just wanted someone to tell me that the handjob would be tough enough and isn't just a weight weenie XC exclusive rig Lol0
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As the name suggests I have a Handjob and can say it'll be more than capable, I have RockShox Pike 426 forks, Thomson Elite Stem and Seatpost, with XTR front/rear mech and XT shifters.
I have taken it to Afan down the Black run on White's level, on the 48km Skyline trail and over to the Dual Slalom, 4X courses and freeride area at Chicksands Bike park and it has handled everything with aplomb.
I can't recommend the Handjob enough and absolutley love mine, the ride after coming from a harsh alu bike is also a good enoug reason to buy one, feels strong and rigid yet skips over bumps and rocks with a subtle flex for comfort.
Buy one, you won't regret it!0 -
are the shivers dual crown
why not save some weight and buy some pikes or 44 ata (i think thats what their called)0 -
Shivers are SC. Quite an old fork aren't they?"Melancholy is incompatible with bicycling." ~James E. Starrs0
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HandjobDan wrote:As the name suggests I have a Handjob
....Oh!.....That's why you're called HandjobDan!Boardman Road Comp '08
Spesh FSR XC Expert '080 -
HandjobDan wrote:As the name suggests I have a Handjob and can say it'll be more than capable, I have RockShox Pike 426 forks, Thomson Elite Stem and Seatpost, with XTR front/rear mech and XT shifters.
I have taken it to Afan down the Black run on White's level, on the 48km Skyline trail and over to the Dual Slalom, 4X courses and freeride area at Chicksands Bike park and it has handled everything with aplomb.
I can't recommend the Handjob enough and absolutley love mine, the ride after coming from a harsh alu bike is also a good enoug reason to buy one, feels strong and rigid yet skips over bumps and rocks with a subtle flex for comfort.
Buy one, you won't regret it!
Freaky - you appear to have the exact same bike as me!
I'd second the above, if you're not after serious airtime then go for the Handjob...0 -
Handjob for sure, I built one up in december with U-turn Rev's all race face finishing kit n' cranks, Mavic 321 wheels.
It's brilliant for trail riding adn Xc duties0 -
yeah the shiver's are SC and are relatively old as in 2002 though they;ve just been serviced, i've decided these as they feel just so plush however in the future is likely a set of fox talas 32's will appear on the front end XD0
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I'm building up a Stiffee with 454 air's in a month or 2. Should be a great all day trail rig. Weight wise it'll only be around 26/27 which is awesome for a bike that strong.
Rest of the spec will be
Ex5.1 on xt hubs
hone cranks
xt f+r mech
xt shifter
sram 990 cassette
RF atlas finishing kit
Would like to get that KS Cobra i900 aswell but cant seem to find them anywhere!0 -
iv just built up a Cove stiffee frame and cant believe how light and strong it is,spec;
Frame Cove Stiffee
Forks Revelation 426 09
Shimano XT 185 mm
hubs pro2
Rims DT SWiss 5.1
Cranks XT
f Mech XT
R mech XTR
shifters XT
Bars Race face Atlas
Stem Race frace Atlas
Headset Hope
Pedals DMR V12
Cassette XT
is more expensive to build it up yourself from scratch but is worth it in the long run.Santa Cruz Blur LT 2 & a cove stiffee0 -
Thermaltake wrote:
Would like to get that KS Cobra i900 aswell but cant seem to find them anywhere!
http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/index.php?cPath=37&osCsid=36dd9d652fe680a0a9ef75cf9db2d4a0"Melancholy is incompatible with bicycling." ~James E. Starrs0 -
Got my frame yesterday start building next week.............
Spec as follows
15.5 hjob 09 white just body sealing paintwork
Raceface deus seat post bar stem and hset
xt crank f+r deraliur shifters
slx cass
sram 991 chain
hayes v7 stroker trail brakes
marzochi bombers xc pro lo
wtb silverado saddle
wtb speed disc
dt swiss 370 hubs
maxis medusa tyres now.... spring fire xc pro
should go like a rocket0 -
Thermaltake wrote:I'm building up a Stiffee with 454 air's in a month or 2. Should be a great all day trail rig. Weight wise it'll only be around 26/27 which is awesome for a bike that strong.
Rest of the spec will be
Ex5.1 on xt hubs
hone cranks
xt f+r mech
xt shifter
sram 990 cassette
RF atlas finishing kit
Would like to get that KS Cobra i900 aswell but cant seem to find them anywhere!
Dont think any of the adjustable seatposts are available in 30mm are they? Unless it'll take a 30.9mm0 -
Yeh true. Hopefully they will release a 27.2 version, could use a shim then. Cant imagine why they dont have a 27.2
Isnt it the most popular seatpost size?0 -
Just thought I'd add to this after seeing on in the flesh today. Never have I been so underwhelmed at the sight of a bike. £600 frame and its stickered up instead of painted logos and the paint was terrible. Not sure I can bring myself to part with so much cash for something so substandard regardless of how well it rides.0
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ScottAspect45 wrote:Just thought I'd add to this after seeing on in the flesh today. Never have I been so underwhelmed at the sight of a bike. £600 frame and its stickered up instead of painted logos and the paint was terrible. Not sure I can bring myself to part with so much cash for something so substandard regardless of how well it rides.
The weld quality is fantastic as it the build quality.
Can't believe you think the paint is not up to scratch either, for a low volume bike it's superb0 -
Mate just read through your messages and couldn't agree with you more when you said about getting something different i couldn't agree more ,who wants something straight off the peg.
I ride a Hustler now but have had both a Stiffee and a Handjob and for what you want it for go for the Handjob and you wont regret it , however i would say throw some Formula brake on your rig and have some real stopping power when chucking your bike around the singletrackP.S Im really the COVE ranger (yes i am)
You may now tell your mates you have now met him0