NO Sense Of History?
meagain
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I read with amazement in the Home Page Review of the Boardman Comp that Nicole Cooke is "arguably" the greatest UK woman cyclist ever. I'd argue with that. In fact, I'd simply laugh.
"Beryl Burton
Beryl Burton was an extraordinary cyclist who dominated Women's British Cycling for over 30 years. "
Note especially the 30 years bit. Of course Nicole is brill, but beats BB? Might be able to argue a case but not for another 25 years or so!
"Beryl Burton
Beryl Burton was an extraordinary cyclist who dominated Women's British Cycling for over 30 years. "
Note especially the 30 years bit. Of course Nicole is brill, but beats BB? Might be able to argue a case but not for another 25 years or so!
d.j.
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I thought a thread about having no sense of history would be about Chelsea FC !0
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But on a cycling forum? Beyond the obvious (a soccer club I believe) I know nowt and care less!d.j.
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...let's say Nicole has the potential...but she's done alright so far......all the way...'til the wheels fall off and burn...0
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We are in the cake stop... it is the home off O/T threadsmeagain wrote:But on a cycling forum? Beyond the obvious (a soccer club I believe) I know nowt and care less!0 -
I need a slap for not editing that out.meagain wrote:I read with amazement in the Home Page Review of the Boardman Comp that Nicole Cooke is "arguably" the greatest UK woman cyclist ever. I'd argue with that. In fact, I'd simply laugh.
"Beryl Burton
Beryl Burton was an extraordinary cyclist who dominated Women's British Cycling for over 30 years. "
Note especially the 30 years bit. Of course Nicole is brill, but beats BB? Might be able to argue a case but not for another 25 years or so!
I would definitely argue that BB, with seven(!) elite world championshps plus an impressive array of time trial records is the more accomplished cyclist.Jeff Jones
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meagain wrote:I read with amazement in the Home Page Review of the Boardman Comp that Nicole Cooke is "arguably" the greatest UK woman cyclist ever. I'd argue with that. In fact, I'd simply laugh.
"Beryl Burton
Beryl Burton was an extraordinary cyclist who dominated Women's British Cycling for over 30 years. "
Note especially the 30 years bit. Of course Nicole is brill, but beats BB? Might be able to argue a case but not for another 25 years or so!
I would say BB is the greatest UK cyclist ever, male or female.I was only joking when I said
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Another Vote for B B . We will not see her like again .
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Was the level of competition in international women's road racing as high in those days? (Honest question - I've no idea, I wasn't involved in cycling then.)
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I've no idea but I'd guess no, simply because women's racing has become a lot more professional in the last 10 years.BeaconRuth wrote:Was the level of competition in international women's road racing as high in those days? (Honest question - I've no idea, I wasn't involved in cycling then.)
That said, Beryl's UK TT records are amazing, given that she wasn't using modern equipment or training methods. She still holds the women's 12 hour record by over 20 miles! She's only ~2'00 off the current 100 mile record, 3'40 off the 50 mile record, 1'30 off the 25 record, and 1'35 off the 10 record.
I'd put her on the same level as Jeannie Longo.Jeff Jones
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BeaconRuth wrote:Was the level of competition in international women's road racing as high in those days? (Honest question - I've no idea, I wasn't involved in cycling then.)
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Womens cycling was maybe not as high profile as mens then .Certainaly in the UK anway, but B B was racing in time trails in the UK against men and in a word , Caning them.
I myself was still wet behind the ears{still am} BB was never out of the cycling press in the UK . She was ; in a word, Awesome :!: Simply the best.bagpuss0 -
When you consider that BB won World titles on both Road and Track and posted a time for the 12 Hour TT that was not only a British Woman's record, but an absolute British one (She beat MacNamara I believe, no slouch himself in those days).
It was also a time when Russians ruled the roost, with their state enforced doping.Remember that you are an Englishman and thus have won first prize in the lottery of life.0 -
That's not that bad, I once read a user comment on the Daily Express website that Hitler started WW1. As far as I could tell my comment correcting it was never posted, though i only checked once. Wonder if I still have the MSN message with the link.Do Nellyphants count?
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