Online shoppers taking over the supermarket

popette · January 2008

The Supermarket staff who have to push around the massive trolleys, getting the shopping for the online shoppers - they do my nut in!!! I've twice been bashed in the leg as they dash around trying to shop more quickly than everyone else. They're always blocking up the aisles (especially around bread). Surely it would make more sense to do the online shops before 8am?

:evil:

spen666 · January 2008

popette wrote:

The Supermarket staff who have to push around the massive trolleys, getting the shopping for the online shoppers - they do my nut in!!! I've twice been bashed in the leg as they dash around trying to shop more quickly than everyone else. They're always blocking up the aisles (especially around bread). Surely it would make more sense to do the online shops before 8am?

:evil:

But if the order is not placed before 8am?

johnnyhotdog · January 2008

spen666 wrote:

popette wrote:

The Supermarket staff who have to push around the massive trolleys, getting the shopping for the online shoppers - they do my nut in!!! I've twice been bashed in the leg as they dash around trying to shop more quickly than everyone else. They're always blocking up the aisles (especially around bread). Surely it would make more sense to do the online shops before 8am?

:evil:

But if the order is not placed before 8am?

why don't they do them from the stock room?

pneumatic · January 2008

We don't have that problem, because our branch of Tescopoly (2 miles away) doesn't do online deliveries; they come from 40 miles away, instead.

Mind you, that's probably just as well, because our branch is 90 percent cr@p. There are 10 aisles: 1 "fresh" fruit and veg, 1 factory dough-based products (mislabelled bread), 1 dairy gloops encased in plastic, 1 dog, cat and detergents, 1 tins and bottles and 5 aisles of things made of refined sugars and salt (cake, biscuits, cereals, crisps, sweets, fizzy drinks (a whole bloody aisle of them!) and booze)

don't get me started on the Easter Egg display, nor the fact that they use my clubcard as the primary criterion for discontinuing all the things that I like!

grrrrrrrrrr hmppppppphhhhh

redddraggon · January 2008

It's just laziness people doing the food shopping online. I don't have a car, go out to work at 7am get back after 6pm every weekday, and still manage to do my own (food) shopping. However nearly everything I buy comes off the net (bike bits, 360 games, DVDs, and so on) but that's because of the price.

Lazy B*stards

spen666 · January 2008

redddraggon wrote:

It's just laziness people doing the shopping online. I don't have a car, go out to work at 7am get back after 6pm every weekday, and still manage to do my own (food) shopping. However nearly everything I buy comes off the net (bike bits, 360 games, DVDs, and so on) but that's because of the price.

Lazy B*stards

you are lazy and I claim my £5 reward

redddraggon · January 2008

spen666 wrote:

redddraggon wrote:

It's just laziness people doing the food shopping online. I don't have a car, go out to work at 7am get back after 6pm every weekday, and still manage to do my own (food) shopping. However nearly everything I buy comes off the net (bike bits, 360 games, DVDs, and so on) but that's because of the price.

Lazy B*stards

you are lazy and I claim my £5 reward

Food shopping, not other stuff.

popette · January 2008

I don't mind people shopping online, I just wish the people gathering their orders would be a bit more polite and stop bashing my bloody ankles!! It seems as though they're under a tremendous time pressure to get their order completed because they are so rude and inconsiderate to the shoppers who actually turn up at the store. Shopping with a 2yr old and 1yr old is hard enough without the shop workers giving you a dig on your way round.
Arrgh , they make me mad.

nwallace · January 2008

johnnyhotdog wrote:

spen666 wrote:

popette wrote:

The Supermarket staff who have to push around the massive trolleys, getting the shopping for the online shoppers - they do my nut in!!! I've twice been bashed in the leg as they dash around trying to shop more quickly than everyone else. They're always blocking up the aisles (especially around bread). Surely it would make more sense to do the online shops before 8am?

:evil:

But if the order is not placed before 8am?

why don't they do them from the stock room?

But the stock room has all the stuff with the long date on them, no point selling stuff that has a longer shelf life than the stuff that is out there that will possibly end up in the staff discount fridge followed by the bin.

Mog Uk · January 2008

popette wrote:

Shopping with a 2yr old and 1yr old is hard enough without the shop workers giving you a dig on your way round.
Arrgh , they make me mad.

Do your shopping online then.. Problem solved...

johnnyhotdog · January 2008

surely that's an over-ordering problem? most supermarkets get deliveries up tp 4 times per week so there should be a reasonably fast turnover of stock if the orders are correct. it shouldn't make much of a difference.*

*everything i've said could be wrong.

nwallace · January 2008

johnnyhotdog wrote:

surely that's an over-ordering problem? most supermarkets get deliveries up tp 4 times per week so there should be a reasonably fast turnover of stock if the orders are correct. it shouldn't make much of a difference.*

*everything I've said could be wrong.

Fast Perishables like Milk, Cakes, Bread, Fruit, Veg need to be kept in short stock and replenished regulalry. (short stock being just enough to meet demand with minimal waste)

Chances are there is none of these behind the scenes, particularly as mum often has to stop at the spar in newport because Tescos didn't have any Wisemans "The One" left.

Longer shelf life stuff can be bought in less regularly, How quick does a shelf of UHT milk (all ways about a 4x10 shelf of the stuff in Dundee Riverside) Nesquick, Horlicks etc shift?

Even with these there won't be a huge amount sitting behind the scenes unless it is a fast shifting item like oven chips or ice cream.

Barcoding and EPOS allows the stores to know when x amount of brand y chips are left in the freezer and rush out with more, when it drops below another level they add it to the list to be delivered in the next delivery.

Also why have lots of items available for internet shopping behidn the scenes when it can all remain as staff and stock rooms and use the shelves out front for collecting items from the open pallets/packages. Also, if you only have 1 shelf where items are you only need to restock that one when the barcode system says that shelf stock is low.

schlepcycling · January 2008

You could always shop at Sainsburys as they pick and deliver the online shopping stuff from the depot and not the shop.

spen666 · January 2008

schlepcycling wrote:

You could always shop at Sainsburys as they pick and deliver the online shopping stuff from the depot and not the shop.

not at my local one- they do it from the store

Parkey · January 2008

popette wrote:

The Supermarket staff who have to push around the massive trolleys, getting the shopping for the online shoppers - they do my nut in!!! I've twice been bashed in the leg as they dash around trying to shop more quickly than everyone else. They're always blocking up the aisles (especially around bread). Surely it would make more sense to do the online shops before 8am?

:evil:

presumably if your leg isn't available they bash your arm instead as an "alternative injury"? :P

Mark Alexander · February 2008

redddraggon wrote:

It's just laziness people doing the food shopping online. I don't have a car, go out to work at 7am get back after 6pm every weekday, and still manage to do my own (food) shopping. However nearly everything I buy comes off the net (bike bits, 360 games, DVDs, and so on) but that's because of the price.

Lazy B*stards

So I'm lazy? Not wanting to get too defensive, but I'm pissed off at such a self-rictus comment. I don't drive either. There is only so much you can fit in a rucksack. Frankly, with my weird shifts, going to Tesco weekly and also th local shops wastes a lot of time and I save money too. Somehow it seems to go on cycling though

Rant over.

redddraggon · February 2008

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redddraggon · February 2008

Mark Alexander wrote:

So I'm lazy?

It's all stereotyping. Not everyone will meet the stereotype.

If you're waiting in for them to deliver when you could be there yourself? You're different from most of the people using the system, in the end you're on a cyclist forum, so you can't be that lazy.

You haven't got a car, so that's fair enough, but most people in this country are lazy, most people have a car, but some still order their shopping online.

Most (but not all) of the people who will order the shopping will probably do things like drive 800yds instead of walking.

spen666 · February 2008

redddraggon wrote:

Mark Alexander wrote:

So I'm lazy?

It's all stereotyping. Not everyone will meet the stereotype.

If you're waiting in for them to deliver when you could be there yourself? You're different from most of the people using the system, in the end you're on a cyclist forum, so you can't be that lazy.

You haven't got a car, so that's fair enough, but most people in this country are lazy, most people have a car, but some still order their shopping online.

Most (but not all) of the people who will order the shopping will probably do things like drive 800yds instead of walking.

Perghaps it better for the environment that a van drives the 2 miles from supermarket to my home, then delivers to 4 of my neghbours as well. Total distance travelled 4 miles ( return trip)

If we all drove to the supermarket that would be 20 miles driven

Rather than being lazy, it COULD be done out of environmental reasons.

Or what about the fact that if waiting in for delivery, I can be allowing my young kids to do their homework, whereas if I go to supermarket I need to take them as they are too young to be safely left home alone. Lazy? No, a parent considering what is best for their children ( ie doing their homework or spending evening wandering round supermarket)

meagain · February 2008

Clearly there can surely be GOOD reasons for home delivery - Spen has cited two!

" it COULD be done out of environmental reasons. "

".. I can be allowing my young kids to do their homework, whereas if I go to supermarket I need to take them as they are too young to be safely left home alone. "

I expect that had there been such a service 20 years ago, herself would have used it when I was working away rather than drag two small kiddies out in the cold and struggle with push chair and shopping.

Another few years (I shall give up driving when 65) and I expect we will be glad if the local Iceland still does deliveries - we can walk there and fill the trolley, but they will drive it back!

Come to think of it, in the days BEFORE convenience shopping my mum had our groceries delivered by ....the grocer, the milk and eggs by....the milkman and the (occasional) meat by,,,,the butcher's boy! Environmentally not too bad: the milk float was battery (I spent 5 happy months "driving" one of the "walk in front" ones in my teens) and the butcher's boy had a BIKE!

Chris_Who · February 2008

If you still go to the supermarket, you are a muppet my friend

meagain · February 2008

Where else would/should I go, please?

Feel to free to insult me by the way. But don't simultaneously call me a muppet and friend - sarcasm I can do without.

Chris_Who · February 2008

Well....

Lets compare the two shall we?

'Real'

Have a wee, change nappies
Put shoes, coat etc. on
Put kids coats, shoes on
Find car keys
change nappy again
put kids in car
drive car to supermarket (15-20 mins)
find space
get kids out
get trolley
push trolley around whole shop length
keep kids entertained whilst doing so
watch out for other trolleys, basket users, random stopping, starting etc.
find checkout with shortest queue
queue up, wait for others to pay, entertain kids
discover person in front has forgotten something and will be back in a minute
take stuff out of trolley, put on conveyor
pack stuff into plastic bags
put back in trolley
pay – wait for it - …. – enter pin… - almost ready…ok take card
push trolley back to car
take bags out of trolley and put into car
take trolley back to trolley park
back to car
get kids in car
drive home (15-20 mins)
get kids out
kids shoes off, coats off
cart shopping in from car
put away – ice cream is soft

Total time (ignore put away) 2 hours
Total cost – £62.50 (shopping £60, Petrol £2.50)
Stress level – high

‘virtual’

Sit on sofa
log on
choose delivery time
do shopping (25 min with tv on)
find voucher code
hit buy button
wait
open door
put away – ice cream is perfect

Total time (ignore put away) 30 mins
Total cost – £59 (shopping £60, Delivery £4.99, Discount -£6)
Stress level – very low

Now of course, if you also priced my time the argument would be overwhelming.

popette · February 2008

just had a hideous trip with 2 year old lying in the aisles and kicking out whenever I tried to grab him. I was sorely tempted to have a tantrum like the woman on the advert. Your description above makes it seem very attractive. Having seen the speed with which they get the shopping in, I wouldn't expect them to take much care over picking my fruit and veg. Plus, I do quite like going in because 99% of the time I bump into someone I know and we have a bit of a chat. (I'm on extended maternity leave/career break and it can sometimes be dull!!!)

I saw something quite funny in the car park though - a car in a parent and child parking space, windscreen wipers lifted off the screen and "I DO NOT HAVE A CHILD" written in lipstick on the screen. 8)

As I said before, no objection to online shoppers it's just the staff who keep bashing me that are getting on my wick.

meagain · February 2008

Kids do not come into our equation any longer - but I agree that if I had to drive to London to pick up the daughter (or on occasions have her fly home from China) would add to the cost/time. And earlier I did say that in years past might well have been handy!

No stress whatsoever in a <10 min drive, nor in strolling round the shop with herself (who enjoys it!) and deciding what is best buy/what we feel like eating. And having little else to fill our time, we go pretty much as and when the mood takes us. Or I want to go to one of the other big stores on the same site.

This does NOT make me a muppet, simply someone who is at a different point on life's curve than you.

richardast · February 2008

Chris_Who wrote:

Well....

Lets compare the two shall we?

'Real'

Have a wee, change nappies
Put shoes, coat etc. on
Put kids coats, shoes on
Find car keys
change nappy again
put kids in car
drive car to supermarket (15-20 mins)
find space
get kids out
get trolley
push trolley around whole shop length
keep kids entertained whilst doing so
watch out for other trolleys, basket users, random stopping, starting etc.
find checkout with shortest queue
queue up, wait for others to pay, entertain kids
discover person in front has forgotten something and will be back in a minute
take stuff out of trolley, put on conveyor
pack stuff into plastic bags
put back in trolley
pay – wait for it - …. – enter pin… - almost ready…ok take card
push trolley back to car
take bags out of trolley and put into car
take trolley back to trolley park
back to car
get kids in car
drive home (15-20 mins)
get kids out
kids shoes off, coats off
cart shopping in from car
put away – ice cream is soft

Assuming we're talking about a lady shopper, you missed out, "Rummage around in handbag for 5 minutes looking for purse. Rummage around in purse for 5 minutes looking for credit card."*
*For over 50s replace credit card with exact change.

meagain · February 2008

"*For over 50s replace credit card with exact change.""

Sexist and ageist in one short hit! Very good. Any racist shopping characteristics to add? Or is that a little too risky?

richardast · February 2008

Older people are statistically less likely to use credit cards.
Women are statistically more likely to carry a handbag and purse.
I was using observation and exaggeration to do a little mild leg-pulling.
Lighten up.

No racism there, nor will there be because it's not funny. I think that your insinuation says more about you than me old man.

meagain · February 2008

Whatever you say, yoof. I know my place. Just don't stand in it.

Chris_Who · February 2008

meagain wrote:

...having little else to fill our time, we go pretty much as and when the mood takes us.
...

This does NOT make me a muppet, simply someone who is at a different point on life's curve than you.

Well in your're case you're quite right. You're not a muppet.

You must be an old git.

Don't get mad - I'll be an old git too one day and look forward making it count

meagain · February 2008

I don't get mad, but given a small chance I'll get even.

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