Rack on a racelight RC (no rack mounts)

tricp
tricp Posts: 201
edited June 2007 in Workshop
My racelight has been retired to commuting duties.

I get a really sweaty back carrying laptop, change of clothes, books, papers etc -- need panniers.

Is there any such thing as "band on rack eyes" ? (I can imagine what they'd look like - normal little bands with eyes on them)

cheers
pete

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  • maddog_2cp
    maddog_2cp Posts: 73
    seatpost-mounted rack?

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  • tricp
    tricp Posts: 201
    I considered that but.. (don't shout at me for this) I want to keep my carbon seat post :):)

    Perhaps it's a price worth paying!

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  • tricp
    tricp Posts: 201
    Well, I suppose it's an old seat post and that will be the most hassle free way of doing.

    All the seat post racks I've seen are only rated up to 9kg though.. are there any that can take more or do I just need to travel light?

    thanks

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  • tricp
    tricp Posts: 201
    Just for future reference (if anyone else needs to know), I was after these
    -> http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.a ... 5360007220

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  • Cyclo2000
    Cyclo2000 Posts: 1,923
    P-clips, innit?

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    And one of these at the top end?

    http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-SJSC ... -11024.htm

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I use a Tubus adapter-set for quick-release-axle mounting - it is much better than p-clips for the bottom mounting, and for the top I use the Tubus clamp set, which are beefed-up p-clips. Alternatively davej's suggestion, above, looks very good for the top mount.
  • Yellow Cliff
    Yellow Cliff Posts: 231
    I use p-clips top and bottom. These aren't generally recommended, but they have served me fine for about 15,000 miles now. I would generally carry about 4kg, but have carried about 20 kg.

    The options above do look more robust, but I was too cheap to invest in the over-priced tubus stuff.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I used p-clips for a while but the rack would tend to sway when heavily loaded, made me nervous. Several years ago I had one scary episode of a p-clipped rack coming adrift on a long fast descent - fortunately I avoided an accident, but the panniers were all over the road, and it could have been nasty.

    Yes the Tubus stuff is expensive (and I paid œ25 not the œ15 SJSC are charging for the adapter), but the result is very very stable, which is what I wanted. I also spent the œ80 on a nice stainless steel Cosmo rack. I console myself with the Tubus 10 year guarantee.
  • tricp
    tricp Posts: 201
    excellent, thanks I hadn't seen the tubus adapters. But I forgot to mention I'm a right cheap skate..

    I am half tempted to drill small holes in the end of the dropouts on the basis that Kinesis probably over engineer everything so I can get away with
    a) weakening the drop out
    b) assuming it, seat stay and chain stay complain about having an extra 10kgs or so hanging off them!

    On another note has anyone got any experience of the "Coyote" aluminium framesets on eBay for œ65? Claimed weight (incl. headset) is 1.8kgs which is okay for a commuter bike that I'm going to put rack and mudguards on anyway.. and they have 'guard clearance and rack eyes.

    thanks

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  • alan_sherman
    alan_sherman Posts: 1,157
    I'd be interested to know if anyone has tried the coyote bikes too - was thinking of buying a frame and building up a bike for the girlfriend out of spare bits I have. Just an unknown quantity and potentially rubbish!
  • tricp
    tricp Posts: 201
    Alan, I have just purchased one of the Coyote frames. There was one in an auction and I got it for œ54 (œ64 posted). I was hoping to get it for less so I could throw it away if that was all it was worth but a bidding war erupted.

    I'll build up with 105 and let you know how it goes.

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  • tricp
    tricp Posts: 201
    okay true to my word I have built up the frame and commuted on it today (an undulating 30m).

    I'd spent the previous day convincing myself it would be a disaster (awful welding, wonky chain stays, bb shell needing to be re-threaded, geomtry for an oompa loompa etc) i.e. basically pretty minging. But it's actually okay.

    Of course it's pretty heavy, climbs like a fat downhiller* and the ali fork gives a bit too much feedback on south cov's finest road surfaces.

    pre and post build photos ->
    http://windridge.org.uk/coyoteframe/ (sorry post ride photos are in dark and yes I am aware my saddle is pointing upwards)

    All in all though, I don't think it's too bad for a winter bike if you're on a budget. My commute isn't flat and I'm not sure if it was simply the extra lbs or something else but it certainly didn't climb as quick as my kinesis for the same effort (got a cycle computer and know "good" times for getting up the various little inclines see :)).

    rack and panniers will be arriving tomorrow and maybe I'll pick up a carbon fork for it.

    *no offence intended

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  • afelstead
    afelstead Posts: 21
    I have the exact same Coyote frame and have been riding it happily as part of a Shimano 105 self-build for 2 years. Replaced the dreadful fork with a carbon beauty, and use the bike for London commuting and recreational training. I think it has been excellent value. I would be interested in how you get on with it.

    One question, should I invest in a new frame, and if so what? I'm looking for a small step up in performance and comfort with a not so large increase in price tag. I do value my rack though, so lugs would be nice but not essential.

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