Shimanon Hub Dynamo
Hi Tinkerers,
I am building a front wheel with a Shimano Hub Dynamo, DH (dynamo hub?) 3R40. This one has a hollow axle for a QR and pick-up for the Roller Brakem (what's the use of the QR, but that is not the isue here).
I notice it is not free turning, of course the magnets you will say. But I went to several shops to give the front wheel of new bicycles with a Hub Dynamo a swirl. They all turn with almost NO resistance. I quickly put my Hub Dynamo in a rim with twelve spokes, even then it was VERY difficult to make the wheel turn! I loosened up the Left Hand cone, no difference at all.
I must say all the wheels I have tried are a different type of Shimano Hub Dynamo. I got mine from a whole-sale shop and I doubt wether they really now their hubs. I can always return the hub. But I would be thrilled that <font color="blue">with your help </font id="blue">I could outsmart [;)] the guys at the whole-sale-shop.
There used to be a "Mister Shimano" at the importer. But I could not get him on the phone. I do not know if he is on leave or they send him on riterement and did not replace him.
Hope you could help, Brompting
A Brompton by any other name, should it not ride as smooth
I am building a front wheel with a Shimano Hub Dynamo, DH (dynamo hub?) 3R40. This one has a hollow axle for a QR and pick-up for the Roller Brakem (what's the use of the QR, but that is not the isue here).
I notice it is not free turning, of course the magnets you will say. But I went to several shops to give the front wheel of new bicycles with a Hub Dynamo a swirl. They all turn with almost NO resistance. I quickly put my Hub Dynamo in a rim with twelve spokes, even then it was VERY difficult to make the wheel turn! I loosened up the Left Hand cone, no difference at all.
I must say all the wheels I have tried are a different type of Shimano Hub Dynamo. I got mine from a whole-sale shop and I doubt wether they really now their hubs. I can always return the hub. But I would be thrilled that <font color="blue">with your help </font id="blue">I could outsmart [;)] the guys at the whole-sale-shop.
There used to be a "Mister Shimano" at the importer. But I could not get him on the phone. I do not know if he is on leave or they send him on riterement and did not replace him.
Hope you could help, Brompting
A Brompton by any other name, should it not ride as smooth
A Brompton by any other name, should it not ride as smooth
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The cheap shimano dynamo hubs are always "on". The good ones, like the Ultegra quality hub, can be switched "off". If you've got one of the former then there'll be more resistance than with the later (when the later is "off").
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by amaferanga</i>
The cheap shimano dynamo hubs are always "on". The good ones, like the Ultegra quality hub, can be switched "off". If you've got one of the former then there'll be more resistance than with the later (when the later is "off").
More problems but still living.....
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Rubbish! When the lamp load is connected, you will feel the extra resistance. When the lamp load is disconnected, the resistance will be much less.
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Its not rubbish actually. I have both a cheapo shimano dynamo hub (NX22) and the ultegra dynamo hub (DH-3D70). There is no noticeable difference in the resistance with the cheapo hub when the light is disconnected. With the ultegra hub there is a huge difference when the light is disconnected. My dynamos don't have roller brakes.
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I have the 3N71, and its not noticeable when riding on it. However, Im talking about spinning the wheel by hand and noticing the frictional difference.0
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I have an ultegra dyno hub. When I first recieved it I tried to turn the spindle by hand and like you say it is surprisingly difficult. When you build the wheel up and fit it into your bike you will not be able to notice anything at all. It is just the magnets and rotor passing each other.
Ultegra hubs cannot be switched off either but you will also not notice any difference between light on or off.
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[:)] What's all this ON/OFF stuff.
Surely the physical resistance of any dynamo remains constant if the distance between the magnets and rotor remains the same! When the light is switched off, current is still being generated but simply not used.
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[:)] What's all this ON/OFF stuff.
Surely the physical resistance of any dynamo remains constant if the distance between the magnets and rotor remains the same! When the light is switched off, current is still being generated but simply not used.
Not a wind up, honest [;)]
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Thats the difference between an EMF (electro motive force) and a voltage. Voltage appears when current flows. Google up on back-emfs if you want to learn more.0 -
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[:)] What's all this ON/OFF stuff.
Surely the physical resistance of any dynamo remains constant if the distance between the magnets and rotor remains the same! When the light is switched off, current is still being generated but simply not used.
Not a wind up, honest [;)]
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Thats the difference between an EMF (electro motive force) and a voltage. Voltage appears when current flows. Google up on back-emfs if you want to learn more.
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Thanks xroads - that was a real trip down a dusty memory lane. The only thing I really remembered was my science teachers name LOL. Can I assume then, more load (or any) is placed on the dynamo - harder it is to turn?0
