Ok 26 and 24 inch wheels.

nicklouse · March 2006

i know what you meant but you just used the wrong word.

bflinty345 · March 2006

I am thinking of changing from 26 inch wheels to 24 on my mongoose thunderball. I only ride street and dirt jumps. i have only been riding a year so im still learning. would it be worth buying 24 inch wheels? Are they lighter, easier to manual, do they carry speed during a rhythm section, and would they be suitable to learn tricks on and how long would they take to get used to? Thanks alot for your help, you all seem to know what your talking about in this thread!

triplecrownglory · March 2006

a round of appaulse for the absolute mooooooo!! on page 4 about rational momentum...what ever that is..too much time in physics class i think..the reason 24's have faster acceleration is because the wheel can spin more times per minute than 26's..all conditions being exact..eg.gear..rider...terrain. i personally have always ridden 24's however i am considering 26's but after riding some of the ''purists'' opinions on this post i think i mite stay ''kiddie style'', the only downside i can see is goin downhill...u will get the front wheel caught in everything and even touchin the brake the tyre will slip. the crap about rims and tyres is rubbish, u just arent looking hard enough.

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Drfabulous0 · March 2006

I built a 24" jump bike last year which handled really well but I just didn't really like it cos it wasn't as stable as I like, I tend to ride fast. So I sold it to a mate who is pretty much the same size as me. He loves it and says he won't go back to 26" for street/jumping/park. Geuss its just personal choice but for the small, chuckable thing I prefer my BMX and for everything else a 26" wheel. I even sold my road bike cos it was nasty and I didn't ride it.

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nicklouse · March 2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by triplecrownglory

a round of appaulse for the absolute mooooooo!! on page 4 about rational momentum...what ever that is..too much time in physics class i think..the reason 24's have faster acceleration is because the wheel can spin more times per minute than 26's..all conditions being exact..eg.gear..rider...terrain. i personally have always ridden 24's however i am considering 26's but after riding some of the ''purists'' opinions on this post i think i mite stay ''kiddie style'', the only downside i can see is goin downhill...u will get the front wheel caught in everything and even touchin the brake the tyre will slip. the crap about rims and tyres is rubbish, u just arent looking hard enough.

''go big or go home''

boom tastic, really fantastic......huh?
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oh dear me. i am glad i did not write that.

Alex · April 2006

Triplecrownglory, you're a fucking moron. If you don't understand the topic (you don't) then you need to read and learn.

If you'd paid more attention at school and less time playing with your toes you might understand the subject at hand. Oh, and kindly stay the hell out of the tech forum.

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elmotheewokking · April 2006

Tire wear is also increased a touch, and if running v brakes Rim wear would also be accelerated a touch? I wonder how much of a weight difference there is between wheels of the same build/type but just different size. Oh and they also let you use bigger tires in some frames.

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Alex · April 2006

There's going to be more rim wear and more tyre wear with 24s than 26s, but tbh, the difference is going to be un-noticable, and irrelevant.

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qwertyqwerty · April 2006

totally agree with 'tripplecrownglory'.
little bit of physics...ok, lets not argue like a load of nerds!

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elmotheewokking · April 2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Chasealex

There's going to be more rim wear and more tyre wear with 24s than 26s, but tbh, the difference is going to be un-noticable, and irrelevant.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I realised that after i wrote it but meh. Does the NPS have any rules concerning wheel size? Or any other race series?

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Alex · April 2006

Not larger than 29", no spiked tyres, no radio links. The rest is pretty open.

Which means you can ride 4X on a BMX.

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elmotheewokking · April 2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Chasealex
Which means you can ride 4X on a BMX.
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Unless you want to live after the race of course. I might just flog my 26"s then and get a 24" for the front as well. Although my time will now be spent learning to ride trials.

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Anonymous · April 2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by elmotheewokking

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Chasealex
Which means you can ride 4X on a BMX.
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Unless you want to live after the race of course.
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most of the courses are BMX tracks anway.

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elmotheewokking · April 2006

Was more talking about it being a MTB series so riding a BMX will more than likely land you with some hospital time [:D]

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clarkee · April 2006

Concerning DH tire choice: .243 duro dh tyre is a 2.6 and comes in 24", as does the 2.7 maxxis high roller, and all of Arrow Racing's tyres. Halo make 24" Dh tyres, So do Tioga (but they don't have grip), Kenda do 24" tyres somewhere in their range. NOkian Gazzaloddi's too. Then theres all the obvious street and dirt tyres....but for DH there is actually a rather good tyre choice.
Im not saying that riding dh on 24's in better, it probably isnt but personally I prefer 24's. I can only afford 1 set of wheels, and I like the feel of 24's, the way it's so wasy to throw the bike around etc etc.
Thats my two pence

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Alex · April 2006

2.7" is not a good width for going fast, and have you ever tried getting a really good mud tyre, or a variation in compounds in 24"?

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elmotheewokking · April 2006

Alex does make a good point. There is no point using a 24" for anything other than Jump, Street and *maybe* 4x. 24"s take less time to clean as i found out earlier.

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disruptor · April 2006

Just changing the wheel size from 26" to 24 won't make a huge amount of difference.
But a 24" specific frame and the right fork make for a very different feel. Much shorter back end, lower standover, tighter geo, you'd just have to ride one really.

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nicklouse · April 2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by disruptor

Just changing the wheel size from 26" to 24 won't make a huge amount of difference.
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Wrong.[}:)]

elmotheewokking · April 2006

Indeed nick very very wrong. I put my rear trailpimp 26 on the back last week, and the headangle went super low. Trust us dude try it, you'll be surprised.

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Alex · April 2006

It should be noted at this point that i love my 24" bike to death, but i'd never ever put 24s on my DH bike.

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elmotheewokking · April 2006

Your DH bike being the Enduro? If so i can understand why. Whats the P1 24 like? A guy i know (but dislike greatly) has 24s on his standard P1 and its far to low and sketchy to ride.

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climber · April 2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Chasealex

Triplecrownglory, you're a fucking moron. If you don't understand the topic (you don't) then you need to read and learn.

If you'd paid more attention at school and <h4>less time playing with your toes</h4> you might understand the subject at hand. Oh, and kindly stay the hell out of the tech forum.

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clarkee · May 2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Chasealex

2.7" is not a good width for going fast, and have you ever tried getting a really good mud tyre, or a variation in compounds in 24"?

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No, since I ride a hardtail I'm already doomed to going slower than someone on a full-suss so tyre compounds don't make a huge amount of difference to me. Also, I only ride dh in summer, so mud tyres are out of the equation.
I can totally see where you are coming from though.

Oh, and regarding 2.7's being slow, thats why I run 2.35 Halo Choirboys!

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bikini · May 2006

there is no change in the angles

nicklouse · May 2006

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bikini

there is no change in the angles

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have you read the topic?

do you understand caster offset and caster angle?

elmotheewokking · May 2006

To be fair nick even after all your explanantions i dont understand it either. Bikini read before you make yourself look more of a moron.

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nicklouse · May 2006

Elmo,

to be honest it is not an easy concept to follow. the easiest way to explain how things change to the caster offset and how it feels is like steepening the head angle. it is all to do with caster wheels and self centering.

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Alex · May 2006

The drop in height of the front end also steepens the head angle a fair old bit too. A degree difference on a headangle is a lot. Half a degree is noticeable.

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cowie · May 2006

the querest wheel set up imaginable is a 24 on the front a 26 on the back, I have a friend who did that for a while, it felt so nasty.
My other friend put a set of 24'' halo combats with 2.7 high rollers on a giant acid frame, it is so ubelievably heavy and slow for a jump bike.

Ok 26 and 24 inch wheels.

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